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To: WhistlingPastTheGraveyard; XHogPilot
I think that list of correlated dates actually muddies the case for Iraqi involvement; or perhaps it just highlights the fact that coincidence of dates is not a very reliable indicator. The date of WTC 1993 and TWA 800, and maybe of OBL's 1998 fatwa, I find striking. But otherwise - between 1990 and 2003 you had thirteen years of war with Iraq, and thirteen years of terrorist attacks, and there's only 365 days in a year. Mathematically, once you consider 23 or more historical events, the odds are already 50% that two will have the same date. There are more than two coincidences in that list, but then there are many more than 23 historical events to play with in that period.

Concerning the date September 11 itself, I think the most likely explanation is that this is the pre-Islamic Egyptian new year celebrated by Egyptian (Coptic) Christians. According to his handler Ramzi Binalshibh, the date was proposed by Atta himself... The modern ideology of jihad, as formulated by Sayyid Qutb (another Egyptian), says that modern Islamic societies have slipped back into "jahiliyah", pre-Islamic ignorance of God, and their rulers are therefore legitimate targets. The Islamists also say that Judaism and Christianity started out in truth but have become corrupted (this is how they can claim Abraham and Jesus as Muslim prophets). The Copts say that September 11 commemorates Christians who were martyred by the pagan Roman emperor Diocletian, but the date does also have a resonance with truly ancient Egyptian culture (the equinoctial flooding of the Nile, the rise and fall of Sirius in the sky). It also appears to be given some prominence in modern, secular-nationalist Egypt (the current Egyptian constitution was adopted on 11 September 1971, less than a year after Sadat took over from Nasser). Finally, it was an Egyptian Copt (Boutros-Boutros Ghali) who was UN Secretary-General at the high point of the post-Gulf War "peace process"... I don't think there's anything very deep here, I think it was opportunistic - Atta had to choose a date, and September 11 fell within range, giving him a chance to send a symbolic message specifically to his countrymen, on top of everything else.

44 posted on 04/11/2004 6:03:16 PM PDT by apokatastasis
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To: apokatastasis
I think the June 25 and August 7 anniversaries are as striking as the ones you mention (WTV '93, TWA 800, and the Fatwa).

And I still think that Aziz calling April 19 the "end of the war" to CNN is a taunt directly from Hussein.

These dates, offered alone, are proof of nothing but a strange series of coincidences. But given the other evidence of Iraqi involvement in using Islamists to attack America, I think it's worth considering as part of the body of evidence against SH.
45 posted on 04/11/2004 7:27:46 PM PDT by WhistlingPastTheGraveyard
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