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Al-Qa’ida: Islamic State Will Control the World
The Media Line ^ | April 1, 2004 | Yaniv Berman

Posted on 04/10/2004 2:25:30 PM PDT by quidnunc

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To: quidnunc
Unneccessary excerpting is, well, unneccessary as well as annoying. Besides, it prevents archiving of the entore article for later reference if the site takes it out of their archives.

Quidnunc, you are the most annoying poster on this board....

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EXCLUSIVE - AL-QA’IDA: ISLAMIC STATE WILL CONTROL THE WORLD

The key ideologist of Al-Qa’ida, Lewis ‘Atiyyatullah (a pseudonym), has published an article in the Global Islamic Media Internet forum, in which he reveals Al-Qa’ida’s perception of the international balance of power at present and in the future. ‘Atiyyatullah sees the future very clearly: the balance of power will change; the international system built-up by the West since the Treaty of Westphalia will collapse; and a new international system will rise under the leadership of a mighty Islamic state.

And all of that will occur within a few years -- maybe a few decades.

The article is called, “So Said Al-Qa’ida: A Letter to Reuven Paz.” Dr. Paz is an Israeli scholar who heads the Project for the Research of Islamist Movements – PRISM. “I wrote you this open letter because you were one of the first of those who showed interest in Osama Bin Laden’s old article entitled ‘The New International Regime’…and you advocated that those in the U.S. and Europe interested in Al-Qa’ida must read the article seriously…” explained ‘Atiyyatullah.


Wake up and smell the coffee

The top ideologist writes that contrary to common sense and the situation on the ground, both the West and the Muslim world do not perceive the change that has already occurred. According to ‘Atiyyatullah, there were two kinds of responses to Al-Qa’ida’s writings in the past. The first, from Westerners who completely ignored the writings of Al-Qa’ida’s great thinkers and strategists. They branded those writings as naïve attempts to present Al-Qa’ida in an unrealistic manner. They referred to Al-Qa’ida’s activities as mindless terror.

The second kind of response, says ‘Atiyyatullah, was that of Muslim thinkers. They saw those writings as fictitious, or as wishful thinking. “They mocked us and said: ‘They [the Americans] toppled Taliban and forced Bin Laden to seek refuge in a cave.’” ‘Atiyyatullah responds to this saying, “Al-Qa’ida does not wage wars similar to other wars…Al-Qa’ida is completely willing to sustain the war for many years…The war will be won by the side which will be able to bear the pain longer.”

‘Atiyyatullah finds it difficult to understand how it is that the West has not yet admitted its defeat. His explanation and analysis is as follows: The West suffers from a grave problem. This problem originates from its long-time superiority in many domains including army, politics, intelligence, and economics. This superiority, says ‘Atiyyatullah, made the West think all the rest were inferior, stupid. That is why the West is now suffering from cultural and strategic confusion. That is also why it cannot admit to its defeat, and persists in seeing it as a mere security problem, which can be solved by international cooperation.

The West will eventually realize its mistake, but it will be to late, says the ideologist. “The West will not understand that its dominance is effectively defeated, until the U.S. will suffer a second attack.” Only then will the Muslim people also understand that they have the capability to win over the West, says ‘Atiyyatullah.


Al-Qa’ida – one beast, many heads

‘Atiyyatullah, the ideologist, sees great importance in Al-Qa’ida’s modus operandus, which does not rely on one leader. He explains that the arrest of one leader does not mean activities cease. “Each activist in Al-Qa’ida is trained in a manner that will allow him to become a leader once another leader falls.” ‘Atiyyatullah warns that the day will come when analysts will talk of the rise of the third generation of Al-Qa’ida. “This generation will be hard to deal with as it will be unknown to most of the Arab and international intelligence organizations.”

Rumsfeld the clown, Bush the stupid

The entire article is characterized with contempt for the U.S. and the West, accusing it of not understanding – or refusing to admit – their defeat. “Al-Qa’ida won its greatest victory after 9/11, when it succeeded in isolating the U.S. from the rest of the world. The U.S. has become similar to a scab-ridden dog which everyone tries to avoid, and Rumsfeld turned into a clown in the eyes of the world, when he said the war on Iraq is ‘a good thing’.”

And as for President Bush, Al-Qa’ida turns out to be his biggest fan. It even hopes Bush wins the next election. Why? “We hope Bush stays in power, as he is our favorite enemy…Osama Bin Laden once said: ‘Thank God for providing us with such a stupid enemy’.”

Our goal – world dominance

And with such enemies, Al-Qa’da’s principal ideologist anticipates no major obstacles in the way of the organization to achieving its strategic aims: breaking the existing world order, uprooting Western dominance in the world and bringing the Muslim world to its natural position as the world’s leading power.


Reuven Paz responds

A few days after this letter to Dr. Paz was submitted, he responded with his own open letter addressed to ‘Atiyyatullah.

His letter was republished in many Islamic forums. Paz asked him “Does Al-Qa’ida support your analysis?...I picture in my mind the image of Osama [Bin Laden], sitting in one of his caves holding your article which was addressed to an Israeli Jew, and reading it thoroughly. He must have smiled and said to one of his aides, ‘[B]rother Lewis is wearing me out…he promised in our name that America will soon find itself out of the political scene.’

Paz ended his short letter with this remark: “It seems you mix reality with fiction.”

Will the Israeli scholar and the Al-Qa’ida thinker continue their published correspondence with one another through the internet? The Media Line will follow this story as it develops.

41 posted on 04/10/2004 2:52:13 PM PDT by Gritty ("John Kerry's hip-hop foreign policy: Ask the multilateral gang what's hip, and hop to it-Mark Steyn)
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To: El Gran Salseron
You have a point, but history is funny thing and history might just be on our side, from another thread.

To quote General Lee

"Well we are here, the enemy is here and we are engaged. Why leave?"

One thing we have going for us is that it is the USMC that is engaged with the enemy, I can't think of any time the USMC, broke off a large engagement with enemy forces. Closest that comes to mind was Choosen Resvior in Korea, when US forces were over run by Chicoms. All but the Marines. They fought there way back to friendly lines bringing all their dead and equipment with them. "Retreat hell, we are attacking in a diferent direction".

The Marines will not take kindly to orders to withdraw, and no Commander in Chief would ever issue such orders to Marines. There is history going for us in this battle and history has a way of winning.


42 posted on 04/10/2004 2:55:22 PM PDT by jpsb (Nominated 1994 "Worst writer on the net")
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To: Jim Noble
Jim Noble wrote: "We still have to beat 'em on the ground."

And it seems, in the head!

My great-grandchildren will be fighting this war - unless we decisively win it.

However, this evil Islamic attitude will probably rear its ugly head on and on, on and on, on and on -- and after many battles it will continue on and on!

44 posted on 04/10/2004 2:58:52 PM PDT by RAY (Right or wrong, it is my country!)
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To: Jeff Head
Jeff what do you think about my 42?
45 posted on 04/10/2004 2:59:20 PM PDT by jpsb (Nominated 1994 "Worst writer on the net")
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To: jpsb
and a new international system will rise under the leadership of a mighty Islamic state.

Short of a supernatural miracle, there will never be a "mighty Islamic state." Having said that, let me say that IMHO, Islamic and western cultures are incompatible and as long as the west continues to allow increases in their Islamic populations, the future will not be rosie. I believe that Islam's desire is to dominate.

46 posted on 04/10/2004 3:01:41 PM PDT by umgud (speaking strictly as an infidel,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,)
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Spain has already surrendered to them, France and Belgium certainly will. There already are more Muslim children than Dutch Christian children in schools in Rotterdam and other Dutch cities - so the Dutch are not far behind.

On my recent trips to other European cities such as Glasgow, I saw more Muslim children and full Mosques. I barely saw any French left in Marseille.

Europe is lost.
47 posted on 04/10/2004 3:03:08 PM PDT by Bon mots
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To: quidnunc
"Atiyyatullah"'s silly little predictions are nothing more than the malevolent wishful thinking of a satanist.

However he did make one point, albeit a distorted one:

"Al-Qa’ida won its greatest victory after 9/11, when it succeeded in isolating the U.S. from the rest of the world"
This was not Al-Qa'ida's greatest victory--9/11 was--but those who have failed to cooperate with the U.S. in the War on Terror, including America's foreign allies, celebrities, "Liberals", Democrat politicians, et al., have, in effect, given their support to Al-Qa'ida.
48 posted on 04/10/2004 3:03:45 PM PDT by Savage Beast ("Vote Democrat!"~bin Laden/"Kerry for President!"~Zawahiri/"Stop Bush!"~Al-Sadr/"Yeah!"~Streisand)
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To: abc1
I recall that socialism and enventually communism would rule the world. After 75 years the Soviet Union collapsed and socialism in its most radical forms is in decline. And the Soviet Union collaped from within, not direclty from the west's efforts. Whoever thinks Islam can rule anything is a rube.

Actually, the Soviets could have destroyed us. The difference is that they would have assured their own destruction in turn. They may have been the evil empire, but they wern't stupid. They still wanted to live.

They Islamics of course relish the idea of dying for allah.

49 posted on 04/10/2004 3:04:13 PM PDT by navyblue
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To: Jeff Head
From another thread

the dogs of war have been let loose, events will most likely tie the hands of whoever is elected president. These things tend to take on a life of thier own and shape the people invovled. While I support Bush I don't think it will make much diferent who is president, the war will have it own energy and will run it's own course regardless.

50 posted on 04/10/2004 3:09:40 PM PDT by jpsb (Nominated 1994 "Worst writer on the net")
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To: Shaun_MD
They also believe that Jews use Christian blood or some such insanity--at least, they claim to believe it. These poor deluded people are essentially psychotic. Because of their basic commitment to delusion, their doom is inevitable. They cannot grasp reality, and therefore they cannot deal with it.
51 posted on 04/10/2004 3:09:48 PM PDT by Savage Beast ("Vote Democrat!"~bin Laden/"Kerry for President!"~Zawahiri/"Stop Bush!"~Al-Sadr/"Yeah!"~Streisand)
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To: Sacajaweau
I never fall for the weapon tech vs weapon tech argument, weapons are only the extension of the will to win that resides within one's heart.
Sometimes, I think too much for my own good but if you ever saw the movie "Gardens of Stone":
[paraphrase}
How do fight someone who fights helicopters and tanks with spears and bows and arrows.(you get the point)
Victory is not guaranteed, success is a matter of determination. Unless we keep our powder dry and our spine stiff we are up for a big surprise both in Iraq and at the ballot box.
52 posted on 04/10/2004 3:10:29 PM PDT by olde north church (Walk softly and nuke indiscriminately --)
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To: quidnunc
What these unfortunate people need more than anything is a huge army of psychiatrists.
53 posted on 04/10/2004 3:11:04 PM PDT by Savage Beast ("Vote Democrat!"~bin Laden/"Kerry for President!"~Zawahiri/"Stop Bush!"~Al-Sadr/"Yeah!"~Streisand)
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To: JackRyanCIA
You better hope and pray Kerry dosen't get elected.

Well, I do hope that. Some guys in my prayer group are praying he doesn't-I'm not sure this is on the Big Guy's radar screen.

But it's a mistake to project our values and our hopes onto Al Qaeda.

THEY don't care who is elected. THEY are coming to kill our babies whether Kerry is elected or not.

Kerry in the White House will not alter our enemy's resolve or action plan one bit. If Kerry is elected, it will be because America is tired of war-before it has even started.

We will have to fight the same world war whether Bush or Kerry is President-and there's nothing either one of them can do to change that.

54 posted on 04/10/2004 3:11:58 PM PDT by Jim Noble (Now you go feed those hogs before they worry themselves into anemia!)
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To: umgud
Al-Qa’ida: Islamic State Will Be First in Race to Mars

Yeah - just as likely
55 posted on 04/10/2004 3:14:34 PM PDT by SteelTrap
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To: areafiftyone
:)
56 posted on 04/10/2004 3:14:46 PM PDT by Eastbound
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To: The_Media_never_lie
"Islamists are a cancer",

And you cure cancer with radiation.

57 posted on 04/10/2004 3:22:48 PM PDT by correctthought (Shop smart, shop S-mart.)
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To: Jeff Head
"If they are ever successful in killing tens or hundreds of thousands of Americans...it is probable that every Mosque here will go down, there will be musilm sympathisers hanging from street poles and Mecca will be a smoldering, smoking hole in the ground."

You would think so. I don't really think it would matter who the president was. The people would demand a response.

59 posted on 04/10/2004 3:39:47 PM PDT by watchin
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To: quidnunc
Sadly they may be right.
60 posted on 04/10/2004 3:49:06 PM PDT by Nov3
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