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Split between US, Iraq council [Iraq council wants ceasefire across the country]
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Posted on 04/09/2004 9:58:46 PM PDT by yonif

IRAQ'S Governing Council demanded an immediate ceasefire across the country and a halt to "collective punishment" today in a sign of a split between US-picked Iraqi leaders and American administrators over US military operations.

Abdel Karim Mahud al-Mahamadawi, a secular Shi'ite member of Iraq's interim Governing Council, met with radical Shi'ite cleric Muqtada al-Sadr, whose militia is battling US-led forces in the south.

He said he was suspending his membership in the Iraqi Governing Council until the "bleeding in all Iraq" ends.

Another member, Ghazi al-Yawer, threatened to quit the council over the Marines' bloody siege of the city of Fallujah, aimed at uprooting Sunni insurgents.

US forces have been fighting a two-front battle this week - against Sunni militants in Fallujah and al-Sadr's militia in the south - that has killed more than 460 Iraqis and 45 Americans.

Yesterday's halt in the Fallujah assault was requested by the council to allow for talks on reducing the violence, US coalition spokesman Dan Senor said.

But a top commander, Brigadier General Mark Kimmitt insisted the talks "are not negotiations".

Al-Yawer, a Sunni council member, and the representative of another Sunni member met overnight with city leaders in talks at a Marine base outside Fallujah, council member Mahmoud Othman said.

Al-Yawer said that while he has not taken any formal steps, " will quit (the council) if the problem is not solved peacefully, because God will not bless a position of power that does not benefit its people".

"If negotiations fail because of the stubbornness of the American side or the failure to adhere to a cease-fire, I will quit 100 per cent," he told Al-Jazeera TV.

The council request for negotiations pointed to the eagerness of the Iraqi leaders to distance themselves from the assault, which has angered many Iraqis and become for some a symbol of resistance against the Americans.

In a statement issued in the early today, the council demanded "an immediate cease fire" and political solutions for the "situations around the country, particularly in Fallujah".

It also called for an end to the "military solution" and "collective punishment that falls on innocent civilians" - a reference to the Fallujah siege.

It denounced terrorism and noted that "no one is above the law" - a reference to activities by both Sunni and Shiite insurgents.

Shiite council member Abdul-Karim Mahoud al-Mohammedawi met overnight with al-Sadr, whom US commanders have vowed to capture.

"I will not go back to the council until we enter a constructive discussion about Iraq ... to achieve what the Iraqi people really want and to stop the bleeding in all Iraq," he told reporters outside al-Sadr's office in Najaf after the meeting.

"I call on everybody to use the voice of wisdom and avoid violence," he said.

One of the strongest pro-US voices on the council, Adnan Pachachi, denounced the US siege, launched after Sunni insurgents killed four US contract workers and a mob dragged their burned and mutilated bodies through the streets and hung two of them from a bridge.

"These (US) operations were a mass punishment for the people of Fallujah," Pachachi told Al-Arabiya TV.

"It was not right to punish all the people of Fallujah and we consider these operations by the Americans unacceptable and illegal."

Added al-Yawer: "We all agree that those who did that (killed the four Americans) were criminals who deserve to be arrested. But the result was the mass punishment of a city. ... And that we refuse."

Asked about the council members' criticism, Senor said US forces have "a responsibility to address a situation that is hostile".

He said the coalition cannot "just turn our heads and look the other way" when Americans are killed in Fallujah.


TOPICS: Breaking News; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: charliefoxtrot; iraq; iraqicouncil; waronterrorism
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1 posted on 04/09/2004 9:58:46 PM PDT by yonif
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To: yonif
If these council members have any power, why don't they broker a truth?

I don't recall hearing their outcry over the slaughter and torching of innocent Americans.
2 posted on 04/09/2004 10:04:52 PM PDT by just a dude
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To: yonif
They'll get a ceasefire the moment we're done killing jihadis.
3 posted on 04/09/2004 10:05:11 PM PDT by thoughtomator (Voting Bush for lack of reasonable alternatives)
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To: yonif

Nuts


4 posted on 04/09/2004 10:06:48 PM PDT by Spruce (why does my spell-check want me to capitalize france?)
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To: yonif
Hey Iraq - Turn in your weapons.
5 posted on 04/09/2004 10:07:15 PM PDT by Mike Darancette (General - Alien Army of the Right (AAOTR))
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To: yonif
Added al-Yawer: "We all agree that those who did that (killed the four Americans) were criminals who deserve to be arrested. But the result was the mass punishment of a city. ... And that we refuse."

The punishment ain't over either.

6 posted on 04/09/2004 10:07:45 PM PDT by EternalHope (Boycott everything French forever. Including their vassal nations.)
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To: yonif
Hence the "temporary cessation" of operations in Fallujah.

Hopefully this situation can be resolved.

7 posted on 04/09/2004 10:09:10 PM PDT by rogueleader
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To: yonif
Who expecetd them to do anything else?

If they want to have any political future in Iraq after the US leaves, they have to criticise our move. Their criticism will have very little effect on what the US actually does.

8 posted on 04/09/2004 10:09:40 PM PDT by CurlyDave
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To: EternalHope
"We will seek out terrorists and bring them to justice...and those that harbor them."

Give'm up or shut up.
9 posted on 04/09/2004 10:11:11 PM PDT by FlashBack (USA...USA...USA...USA...USA...USA...USA...USA...USA...USA..USA...USA!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
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To: yonif
a ceasefire?? ceasefire??

How do they reckon to have a ceasefire with Sadr and his army?

10 posted on 04/09/2004 10:11:37 PM PDT by GeronL (Hey, I am on the internet. I have a right (cough, cough) to write stupid things.)
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To: CurlyDave
The cease-fire will be acknowledged.

Of course it will be after operations in Ramadi and Fallujah are completed and Sadr facing justice.

11 posted on 04/09/2004 10:12:50 PM PDT by LdSentinal
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To: GeronL
Didn't Sadr himself call for a ceasefire? He's clearly not too eager for martyrdom.
12 posted on 04/09/2004 10:12:51 PM PDT by Filibuster_60
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To: thoughtomator
All over the planet.
13 posted on 04/09/2004 10:14:58 PM PDT by Iberian
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To: yonif
People that don't understand Freedom have no business governing any individual.
14 posted on 04/09/2004 10:16:03 PM PDT by PGalt (Are you listening Democrats?)
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To: just a dude
It's politically incorrect to give the impression that you care more about the occupier than your own countrymen - even if those countrymen are goons.

It's like how black Americans mostly shun their own underclass but can get very angry if white cops treat their gangbangers too roughly.
15 posted on 04/09/2004 10:16:06 PM PDT by Filibuster_60
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To: Iberian
I love it when the Sh'ite hits the fan.
16 posted on 04/09/2004 10:16:23 PM PDT by FLAUSA
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To: CurlyDave
The problem is that it signals to the violent ones a political weakness.

There must be a united front: No violence, no exceptions, no excuses, and it gets punished.

The GC seems to be saying coalition cannot engage in 'all means necessary' to ensure security. We need to explain to the GC that security is harmed if we dont have freedom to pursue the fighters.

I'm afraid the Al Jazeera agit-prop has pushed the political ball in a particular direction. This kind of 'negotiation' nonsense will lead to the legitimization of the militias. If the GC doesnt have the stomach for disarming them by force, "Lebanon" awaits.
17 posted on 04/09/2004 10:17:51 PM PDT by WOSG (http://freedomstruth.blogspot.com - I salute our brave fallen.)
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To: yonif
NUKE FALLUJAH!
It worked wonders in Hiroshima.
After the dust settles. Then we'll talk.
18 posted on 04/09/2004 10:20:20 PM PDT by MagnoliaB (Never forget.)
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To: Spruce
Nuts

“Any man who is that eloquent deserves to be relieved. We shall go right away!”

19 posted on 04/09/2004 10:20:23 PM PDT by PattonReincarnated (Rebuild the Temple)
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To: yonif
I'd just like to tell the council"Hey dudes, let me inform you, there was a cease-fire on our part for months and we were the ones being shot at, bombed and killed and now we're going to fight back until they wish they'd never thought of harming an American. Put that in your in your pipe and smoke it to your hearts content.

This is so bogus. It is like some bully trying to kick your a$$ everyday for months and when you hit back they run to their mama crying. Well let them get a little American medicine and see if they want to keep asking for more because I'll bet we can oblige them.

20 posted on 04/09/2004 10:20:23 PM PDT by tiki
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