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To: kevkrom
The government is responsible for you over-extending yourself to the point you can't keep afloat with unemployment compensation long enough to stop whining and start doing something?

Who said I over extended myself? It took me four years to recover from a house fire in which I lost everything because I just couldn't for some reason afford the insurance after being on restricted work hours for 6 mountsh after having pneumonia. I just had a water line burst and it's going to cost me the worth of two months spare pay (spare, heh) to fix it. And the seperation pay I will get is going to be taxed at, ready for the amount - 45%. Yep, the money I would have to work with after my years of work, the government is taking half of it up front. Nothing like kicking a guy when he's down after kicking the guy down in the first place, huh.

And you act like I'm doing nothing. Nobody discussed what I'm doing about it right now did they. All of us are looking for jobs and none of us have found anything yet or we would likely have all bailed on EDS early. There is nothing here. And if you can't read, I can't just up and run off somewhere else. Tell you what, rip up your drivers license, go get yourself diagnosed with emphysema, and quit your job. Oh, that's right, you still don't know the whole story; but, you really don't care about the effects your ideas have on real people. Everything is simple in life, you just up and do things. I didn't take a dime of government money when my house burnt to the ground, I didn't go on disability when I was sick - I fought daily for six months working till I literally couldn't stand up because I refused to be kept down.

It just doesn't occur to some of you people who the hell you're talking to. I've never been on unemployment a day in my life and I've relied on myself to the point that it's made me ill because I wouldn't put myself off on others. And here I am being badmouthed as though I were some lazy punk by people who don't have a clue. This is why I'm so mad.

74 posted on 04/09/2004 1:35:44 PM PDT by Havoc ("The line must be drawn here. This far and no further!")
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To: Havoc
And the seperation pay I will get is going to be taxed at, ready for the amount - 45%. Yep, the money I would have to work with after my years of work, the government is taking half of it up front. Nothing like kicking a guy when he's down after kicking the guy down in the first place, huh.

Hey, I'm all in favor of tax reform -- I think that's one of the few things that government can actually do to help the situation. That 45% that they are taking is pretty much criminal -- you certainly have my sympathy on that.

I appreciate that you're in a tough situation. Where I do have a problem is that you are blaming the government for what a business had done and seem to be expecting the government to fix things for you. The US government just doesn't do that sort of thing -- when it has tried, it certainly hasn't done them well.

And while it is too late to change the past, in retrospect you really should have taken advantage of the government assistance when you had the chance (and by all means, take it now if you can get it) -- you've been taxed enough to pay for these programs, you should have no qualms about using them. Even unemployment insurance is a tax on your employer's payroll, which is really a hidden tax on you.

80 posted on 04/09/2004 1:55:44 PM PDT by kevkrom (The John Kerry Songbook: www.imakrom.com/kerrysongs)
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To: Havoc
74 - "And the seperation pay I will get is going to be taxed at, ready for the amount - 45%. Yep, the money I would have to work with after my years of work, the government is taking half of it up front. Nothing like kicking a guy when he's down after kicking the guy down in the first place, huh. "

Sorry to give you another kick, but check with an accountant, and see if they have changed the IRS laws or not. But when I was caught in the oil crash in Houston in the 80's, and had to sell my house (before it was forclosed on) in a very down market, I found out that while I had to pay taxes on the gain in value, if it increased, the $25,000 decrease in sale price from what I bought it at was not deductible. So, I couldn't use the drop in value as a loss to counteract the taxes I had to pay.

That was a another real kick to me.
258 posted on 04/10/2004 7:13:05 PM PDT by XBob
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