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To: Havoc
I've already been beaten into reconsidering my registration by some of you. I ain't a democrat, never have been and never will be; but, I'm wondering now why I'm republican, cause some of you make me ashamed of the word.

Know that we do really have a big tent in the GOP, and more than a few common values. I truly am sorry about your job, and wish you all the good fortune in the world. Keep your chin up and a positive outlook, and I wager that you will find an even better situation real soon.

Free trade is good economics and good for the economy as a whole, I believe. The US in a net beneficiary in outsourcing, believe it or not. However, I know that is cold comfort to one who has recently had a job outsourced to another country.

Good luck and keep the faith!

302 posted on 04/10/2004 8:42:28 PM PDT by Tennessean4Bush (An optimist believes we live in the best of all possible worlds, a pessimist fears this is true.)
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To: Tennessean4Bush
Wait till they outsource you. Mine happened not because my company got a bright idea; but, because of competition. The client we support is dragging my desk to Mexico and pushing it's US suppliers into having to outsource or lose their contracts.. It's one of the big 3.

I've talked to people at this point who were making 80-100k a year as engineers who are working now in Kmart, Target, and McDonalds cause they can't get anything else. That is money that isn't in this economy anymore. If it isn't here - it ain't here for you anymore than it is for me and primarily for them.

You've got people retraining who now find their degrees are no good. There is a person on this thread who has multiple degrees from multiple retraining efforts and his degrees are no good to him. What we're essentially being told by practical experience is all our money should be spent on our job in order to keep our job; but, it isn't our job, so don't expect to keep it. I spent 10 years in sales and I couldn't sell that on my best day. People aren't going to stand for being told they have to be professional students and be displaced everytime they sneeze because their employers can't be trusted, are unreliable and basically liars. And it doesn't seem to occur to any of you how subversive that is. As I've noted many times, ya'll are brewin the ingredients for a war.
310 posted on 04/10/2004 9:00:46 PM PDT by Havoc ("The line must be drawn here. This far and no further!")
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To: Tennessean4Bush
Wait till they outsource you. Mine happened not because my company got a bright idea; but, because of competition. The client we support is dragging my desk to Mexico and pushing it's US suppliers into having to outsource or lose their contracts.. It's one of the big 3.

I've talked to people at this point who were making 80-100k a year as engineers who are working now in Kmart, Target, and McDonalds cause they can't get anything else. That is money that isn't in this economy anymore. If it isn't here - it ain't here for you anymore than it is for me and primarily for them.

You've got people retraining who now find their degrees are no good. There is a person on this thread who has multiple degrees from multiple retraining efforts and his degrees are no good to him. What we're essentially being told by practical experience is all our money should be spent on our job in order to keep our job; but, it isn't our job, so don't expect to keep it. I spent 10 years in sales and I couldn't sell that on my best day. People aren't going to stand for being told they have to be professional students and be displaced everytime they sneeze because their employers can't be trusted, are unreliable and basically liars. And it doesn't seem to occur to any of you how subversive that is. As I've noted many times, ya'll are brewin the ingredients for a war.
311 posted on 04/10/2004 9:00:51 PM PDT by Havoc ("The line must be drawn here. This far and no further!")
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To: Tennessean4Bush
Good luck and keep the faith!

AHEM!!!!! Economics isn't a religion, unless money is a god.

327 posted on 04/10/2004 10:54:19 PM PDT by drlevy88
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