[Havoc]

It translates to the same thing. Whether it's 5k or 5trillion. If you reduce income levels the debt doesn't stop being 5trillion. The ability to pay is impared and the debt stays the same. You're pulling the wool trying to hide that simple fact apparently. And from my chair, you only lie to a person about their debt load and ability to pay if you're trying to scuttle them. And if I had a TV studio to put you guys in for two hours in front of the American people to repeat all this stuff, I'd drag every last one of you in there in chains if I had to and force you to repeat it so the People could see your tripe for what it is.

[1rudeboy]

That's funny. Could I bring props? We could enact your loan scenario in a matter of moments. And it would only take a minute for your viewers to understand that you don't know what the heck you're talking about.