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After Rice testimony, questions remain
AP ^ | 4.8.04 | Calvin Woodard

Posted on 04/08/2004 4:02:35 PM PDT by ambrose

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Thursday, April 8, 2004 · Last updated 3:10 p.m. PT

After Rice testimony, questions remain

By CALVIN WOODWARD
ASSOCIATED PRESS WRITER

WASHINGTON -- The blizzard of words in Condoleezza Rice's testimony Thursday did not resolve central points about what the government knew, should have known, did and should have done before the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks.

The extraordinary session cast fresh attention, for example, on a CIA memo sent to President Bush a little more than a month before the attacks with the newly disclosed and pointed title: "Bin Laden Determined to Attack Inside the United States."

But President Bush's national security adviser asserted it was not a "warning document," but rather a historical analysis of terrorism that mentioned, along with many other things, the possibility of hijackings.

In a new, if narrower, source of contention, Rice said flatly that her counterterrorism chief at the time, Richard Clarke, never asked to meet directly with Bush to discuss the threat posed by al-Qaida before Sept. 11, 2001.

Clarke insisted otherwise in a TV interview on Thursday, saying he asked for such a meeting several times, and was told "if I just held on, eventually they would get to it." It didn't happen.

So it went on point after point: Rice vs. Clarke. Rice vs. Democratic members of the commission studying the failures of Sept. 11.

Rice's characterizations of the government's preparations against terrorism before the attacks did not always fit together neatly, the result, perhaps, of summarizing a complex time when indications of trouble from terrorists were growing even as many pressing foreign policy matters demanded attention.

For example, she said of al-Qaida, "President Bush understood the threat, and he understood its importance." This, despite the president's admission - in a less contentious time - that he had not been sufficiently focused on Osama bin Laden.

As he put it in Bob Woodward's book, "Bush at War": "I was not on point. I have no hesitancy about going after him. But I didn't feel that sense of urgency, and my blood was not nearly as boiling."

Although Rice described in detail the government's gathering strategy to go after the al-Qaida terrorist network before Sept. 11, she said it would be wrong to characterize the United States - either during the Clinton administration or in the early months of Bush's presidency - as being at war against terrorists.

"We weren't on war footing," she testified. "We weren't behaving in that way."

Yet, at another point, she said, "The president of the United States had us at battle stations during this period of time," directing the CIA, FBI, Pentagon and other agencies to prepare for the possibility terrorists might strike U.S. interests abroad.

Much attention was paid to what constitutes a plan and a warning - questions that go to the core of whether the Bush administration could reasonably have been expected to head off the attacks.

Commissioners have seen a classified Aug. 6, 2001, Presidential Daily Briefing memo in which the CIA addressed bin Laden's interest in attacking inside the United States and made some reference to hijackings as a possible tool of terrorists. Some commissioners say the memo contains threat information the government could have acted on, and they are trying to get it released.

"It was historical information based on old reporting. There was no new threat information," Rice said. "And it did not, in fact, warn of any coming attacks inside the United States."

She also played down the significance of a note Clarke sent to her one week before the attacks in which, according to the commission's summary, he challenged policymakers to "imagine a day after a terrorist attack, with hundreds of Americans dead," when they would be asking themselves what they could have done to prevent it.

Top national security officials adopted a strategy against al-Qaida that day, Sept. 4, that had been months in the making.

Rice said Clarke's note "was not a premonition, nor a warning" about al-Qaida, but rather encouragement that she not let the federal bureaucracy undermine the new strategy against the terrorists.

"A warning is when you have something that suggests that an attack is impending," she said of the Aug. 6 and Sept. 4 correspondence. "And we did not have ... threat information that was, in any way, specific enough to suggest that something was coming in the United States. "


TOPICS: War on Terror
KEYWORDS: 911commission; condoleezzarice; ricetestimony
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1 posted on 04/08/2004 4:02:35 PM PDT by ambrose
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No, you morons.. you had your chance to ask your stupid questions... now it is time to turn out focus back to fighting the War on Terror.
2 posted on 04/08/2004 4:03:32 PM PDT by ambrose ("I actually did vote for the $87 billion before I voted against it" - John F. al-Query)
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To: ambrose
And the "questions" will continue. . .at least until Election Day.

Michael M. Bates: My Side of the Swamp

3 posted on 04/08/2004 4:04:48 PM PDT by Mike Bates (Artist Formerly Known as mikeb704.)
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To: ambrose
After Rice Testimony, Questions Remain

...this is EXACTLY what Freepers were predicting on the live Condi thread today. Spin silk into a sow's ear. Ignore the brilliant truth.

4 posted on 04/08/2004 4:06:01 PM PDT by Sender (Support Free Republic...become a monthly donor!)
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5 posted on 04/08/2004 4:06:38 PM PDT by Support Free Republic (I'd rather be sleeping. Let's get this over with so I can go back to sleep!)
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To: ambrose
The AP has degenerated into a mere DNC mouthpiece, almost as jaundiced as Reuters.
6 posted on 04/08/2004 4:07:10 PM PDT by facedown (Armed in the Heartland)
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To: ambrose
"After Rice testimony, questions remain"

When you don't like the answers just claim that "questions remain".
7 posted on 04/08/2004 4:08:34 PM PDT by lews
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To: ambrose
I have a question concerning the panel of ten. I had heard that the first time that Rice appeared before them, there were only five present.

Does anyone have a link or the information as to who was present the first time?

Thank You!
8 posted on 04/08/2004 4:13:16 PM PDT by Wake Up America (who was in the first panel, the first time Rice testified?)
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To: ambrose
The only question that remains is: By how many electoral votes will Lurch lose this fall?
9 posted on 04/08/2004 4:13:30 PM PDT by Young Rhino (http://www.artofdivorce.com)
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To: ambrose
After Rice testimony, questions remain

About the only question I see that remains is: Why did the Dems believe that their demanding Condi Rice to testify in public wasn't going to blow up in their faces?

10 posted on 04/08/2004 4:14:04 PM PDT by dirtboy (John Kerry - Hillary without the fat ankles and the FBI files...)
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To: ambrose
This Calvin Woodward is an idiot.

He should playback the session or read the transcript.

Hamilton asks: "There are a lot of very, very fine _ 2 billion Muslims. Most of them, we know, are very fine people. Some don't like us; they hate us. They don't like what modernization does to their culture. They don't like the fact that economic prosperity has passed them by. They don't like some of the policies of the United States government. They don't like the way their own governments treat them..."

Rice replies: "... we're not going to see success on our watch. We will see some small victories on our watch. One of the most difficult problems in the Middle East is that the United States has been associated for a long time, decades, with a policy that looks the other way on the freedom deficit in the Middle East, that looks the other way at the absence of individual liberties in the Middle East. And I think that that has tended to alienate us from the populations of the Middle East..."

Don't blame us. Blame the terrorists (yes, those "very fine people"). We can't easily change them - it'll take many years. But we can focus on the War on Terror and obliterate the terrorists who want to obliterate us!

11 posted on 04/08/2004 4:17:35 PM PDT by roadcat
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To: ambrose
The blizzard of words in Condoleezza Rice's testimony Thursday did not resolve central points about what the government knew, should have known, did and should have done before the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks.

Says who?!

12 posted on 04/08/2004 4:19:17 PM PDT by Reagan Man (The choice is clear. Reelect BUSH-CHENEY !)
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To: facedown
I had to laugh that a mob lawyer--ben veniste--was the rats major spokesman--kind of appropriate.
13 posted on 04/08/2004 4:22:05 PM PDT by rodguy911
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To: ambrose
Don't they even have enough intellegence to come up with a new lie? After Bush released ALL his military records, the big DNC directed spin line was "This just raises more questions that it answers". These "reporters" are pure DNC directs scum. Notice how the initial reporting was pretty positive and now that the DNC Talking points have been emailed out, the coverage is turning? These people have ZERO crediblity or intellectual honesty
14 posted on 04/08/2004 4:23:38 PM PDT by MNJohnnie (Vote Bush 2004-We have the solutions, Kerry Democrats? Nothing but slogans.)
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To: ambrose
Being this is an AP story, I'm assuming it's a news article and not an op-ed. Re-read the first sentence. That is a statement of fact. Can anyone tell me what is the least bit objective about that sentence?
15 posted on 04/08/2004 4:26:39 PM PDT by cincinnati65 (Rooting for the Panthers since 1995.......)
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To: ambrose
Way to Go! Condoleezza Rice didn't budge an inch from how things really are.
I'm proud of her.
16 posted on 04/08/2004 4:32:20 PM PDT by austinmark (*Never Underestimate the Power of Stupid People in Large Groups.*)
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To: ambrose
After Rice testimony, questions remain

Yes Calvin they do. Questions remain. Like what did the i42 administration know, and when did it know it?

Maddy, Cohen, Berger, Reno, et. al.. have a stellar record. Right Calvin? The Kobar towers, WTC #1, OK City, embassies, the Cole, etc..And where the heck is algore, or Free, and I haven't heard anything from the Hidabeast? I'm sure their testimony would be helpful, right Calvin?

5.56mm

17 posted on 04/08/2004 4:41:18 PM PDT by M Kehoe
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To: All
Guys, to make this a victory, you have to turn it into a victory. It won't be by logic or persuasion of those who will hear what they want to hear.

It requires taking advantage of the situation to make an end run around their defense.

BCRW BCRW

We have a Black Conservative Republican Woman center stage and looking very good. The key here is to talk about how good she looked, how sharp, how representative she is about all that is good about Black America. How she is prototype of the coming wave of Black American women.

It's about votes, people. Always. No exceptions. And this is a chance to peel 5-10% off of Kerry's black vote and have W come in with 20-25% in November. Just 5% of the black vote stripped off of them will leave the Democrats losing forever.
18 posted on 04/08/2004 4:44:30 PM PDT by Owen
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To: M Kehoe
hidabeast=hildabeast (97, hillary, a/k/a fjb). I did proof read the post. OK? Spelling police?

5.56mm

19 posted on 04/08/2004 4:44:38 PM PDT by M Kehoe
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To: facedown
cwoodward@ap.org
20 posted on 04/08/2004 4:49:15 PM PDT by jimbo123
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