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To: Elsie
Sorry for the delay, my son stopped in for dinner. And this may be more than you asked:

According to Acts 2 the Jews, the followers of Y'shua, met daily (v 46) continuing with one mind in the Temple (this would be the Temple in Jerusalem - these men and women were Jews not Baptists, Prebys, Methodist, Catholics or any of the other denominations that came in following centuries to exclude Jews), and breaking bread from house to house, they were taking their meals together with gladness and sincerity of heart.

What has become known as the Last Supper was, when Y'shua and his followers celebrated it, The Feast of Pesach (unleaven bread). Leaven, from Y'shua's teachings, represented sin. The Jews were to clean their house (literally and spiritually), as in their hearts, of sins to partake of the Feast which celebrated their deliverance by YHVH from being slaves in Egypt.

Placed on the table, as to this day, a wine cup and unleaven bread. The head of the household, just as Y'shua practiced His entire life and as host of His last Feast of Pesach, lifted the wine and blessed the wine and table: "Blessed art Thou, O Lord our God, King of the universe, who has granted us life, sustained us and permitted us to celebrate this joyful festival." Then, He would have said prayer: "Let us praise God with this symbol of joy and thank Him for the blessings which this Feast of Pesach brings to us. Our hearts are stirred by memories of deliverance of our forefathers from Egypt. The unleavened bread reminds us of the hardships they endured to remain steadfast to the service of God. May their example teach us fortitude and lead us through noble living to the service of the Eternal God."

He would have then blessed the wine: "Praised art Thou, O Lord our God, King of the universe, who has created the fruit of the vine." The wine cup would be passed round the table and each in turn would drink (which always symbolizes covenant relationship). He then would have broken the bread, dipped it in the salt, and blessed it: "Praised art Thou, O Lord our God, King of the universe, who causes the earth to yield food for all." Each one at the table would likewise partake of the bread and salt. The Pesach Service would have been conducted. Then the meal would be served.

According to the Gospels, Y'shua then, while they were eating, Y'shua took some bread, blessed it, broke it and gave to His disciples, and said: "Take, eat; this is My body." Of course the Jews did not take this literally, because such a statement, in the literal sense, would have been a total aversion to Judiasm. Then He took the cup and gave thanks, and passed it saying: "Drink from it, all of you; for this is My blood of the covenant, which is poured out for many for forgiveness of sins." In Jewish culture, this did not mean that they were drinking His blood. Jewish culture held that the wine represented a blood covenant! Wine, as a legal seal, to all covenants represented that the people partaking of the cup of wine were in a blood covenant. Y'shua never would have insinuated that they were actually drinking His blood or eating His flesh - this was a total aversion to Jewish culture. For example, when two people (like Joseph and Mary) were betrothed, her father poured a cup of wine (he then would have called Mary into the room and offered her the cup first - if she took the cup, then she accepted the marriage - if she didn't then there was no marriage), the bride-to-be, the father and the bridegroom would, in turn, take the cup and drink. From that moment they were legally married - they were in covenant (this is why Joseph would have divorced Mary even though they had never been together - this would happen a year after betrothal). Wine always represented a blood covenant! Marriage is a blood covenant - it is not consummated without the blood; that is why some marriages on earth are legal by man's doctrines but not recognized in heaven. The bride was agreeing to be set apart for her bridegroom until he returned to take her to the bridal chamber (which he had to build for her; he would depart telling her "I go to build a chamber for you and I will return") and he could not return for her until his father said he could. His father had to approve the bridal chamber and decide the timing of the wedding (consummation). Then the bridegroom would go in the night and get his bride and take her into the chamber for 7 nights, emerging for the wedding celebration with their family and community.

Communion is a combination of the marriage covenant the celebration of the Festival of Pesach (Passover) when the Jews placed the blood of the lamb upon their doorposts and lintel so the angel of death would pass over. Y'shua is the lamb that takes away the sins of the world! (John 1:29), which by the way is one of the most amazing quotes in the Bible because the Jews had nothing to do with the world. Now, thank the LORD, it says the world and not a denomination or a race!

Every time you celebrate communion you are supposed to have cleansed your heart of leaven (sin); and when you partake of the cup and bread you are showing publicly that you are setting yourself apart, you are in a blood covenant, and you are waiting for your Bridegroom. You partake of the cup of wine to show that you are in blood covenant (not drinking blood).

Y'shua arose on The Feast of First Fruits, which happens to be today!

164 posted on 04/08/2004 5:10:54 PM PDT by TrueBeliever9 (aut viam inveniam aut faciam)
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To: TrueBeliever9; Elsie
The first people to take communion were Jewish and they did not take it in cathedrals - they took it daily, with each other, in their homes . . . According to Acts 2 the Jews . . . breaking bread from house to house, they were taking their meals together with gladness and sincerity of heart.

I just don't see your notion that "breaking of bread" is a meal. Read in context, Acts 2:41-47 is about the spirtual life of new Christians. This is especially true of "breaking of bread" in Acts 2:42. As "baby" Christians, they need to be nourished. Indeed, the Greek for "eat their meat" (Acts 2:46) can just as easily be translated as "partake of nourishment" which certainly describes a key spiritual aspect of Holy Communion!

Of course the Jews did not take this literally, because such a statement, in the literal sense, would have been a total aversion to Judiasm.

Except of course, this is literally what Jesus said. And further, in John 6, when Jesus used very explicit words, the Jews understood him literally. Interestingly, Jesus ALWAYS explained things to the disciples. Jesus starts off using the Greek phago ("to eat") (Jn 6:49, 50, 52, 53), which might have a symbolic meaning. But after the Jews dispute among themselves, Jesus changes verbs. He uses the Greek trogo (Jn 6:54, 56, 57, 58) which has the more vivid meaning "to chew, to gnaw". Jesus did not say "Oops, you took me literally." He explained it by moving away from any potentially symbolic meaning and vividy towards the literal. In other words, "Hey, I meant it!"

At the time of the Last Supper, there were over three dozen Aramaic words to say "this means," "represents," or "signifies," but Jesus used none of them. He said, "This is my body."

Imagine how much insight we could gain if we could speak with St. John himself and ask him what he understood our Lord to mean. Well, this is exactly what the Fathers of the Church were able to do. St. Ignatius of Antioch was a disciple of St. John, and St. Ignatius is not silent on the subject. He writes:
"They [the non-orthodox] do not confess that the Eucharist is the flesh of our Savior, Jesus Christ, flesh which suffered for our sins in which the Father in His goodness raised up again. They who deny the gift of God are perishing in their disputes." (Letter to the Smyrnaeans; 6:2–7:1; 110 AD)
This is further underscored by the "Lord's supper" ritual mentioned in I Cor. It is not about Passover or a Jewish rite of unleavened bread. It's about the "Lord's supper". It occurs whenever the church gathers. It is an accurate summation of the Catholic liturgy of the Eucharist "after the order of Melchisedek".

1 Cor 10:16 - "The bread which we break, is it not a participation in the body of Christ?"
1 Cor 10:17 - "Because there is one bread, we who are many are one body, for we all partake of the one bread."

Further, in 1 Cor 11:20-22 Paul explicitly mocks those who treat the Lord's supper as a common meal in fellowship. And in 1 Cor 11:27 Paul makes clear that eating the bread unworthly is akin to killing Christ.

No. The "breaking of bread" is no common meal. The Catholic understanding can be traced back through 2,000 years of explicit teachings right to its source in sacred Scripture.

Y'shua is the lamb that takes away the sins of the world! (John 1:29), which by the way is one of the most amazing quotes in the Bible because the Jews had nothing to do with the world.

I agree completely that it is an amazing quote. My meager grasp of its transcendent grace devastates me beyond words. Which is why I would simply refer you back to Ex 12:46 to see why it is a completely Catholic verse fully supporting Holy Communion.
181 posted on 04/09/2004 2:01:56 AM PDT by polemikos (Ecce Agnus Dei)
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