[Joe Hadenuf]

But almost none of the nativists on this site mention that approach. They just rant about having the military on the borders, or rounding up folks on the street. Sad.

Absolutely not true Torie.

The only sad thing here is you dodging the truth, as *thousands* of very credible solutions to this epic crisis have been repeated many times here and everywhere else. And you living in California should know, there have been historic propositions that have been voted for and passed. One of which I help work on for almost two years. The solutions to this crisis have been voiced here in California *THOUSANDS* of times. Hey Torie, want proof of this? Just turn on your AM radio any day of the week.

I don't know where you are coming from with that statement. There have been countless threads on FR over the years that have dealt with reasonable ways of solving the illegal immigration crisis.

WRhine, I completely agree, as I posted the same responce to Torie several posts up.

[Torie]

Hey guys, so you want to keep this discussion alive, I'll bite. What "solutions" have been proposed by you that do not involve border fortifications, or rounding the folks up on the street? By the way, I reject not educating the kids of the illegals through secondary school to the extent they are here (that is unfair to the kids, wrong and immoral in my mind), nor do I accept denying medical care to these folks, in part in order to avoid infectious diseases, and having to pay for emergency care later on.

A guest worker program has some attraction, but seem impracticable to implement.

Have at it. At least we seem to be able to chat without untoward acrimony, for which I salute you. Cheers.