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Goodness. There are conservatives who seem to want us to lose just as badly as the liberals do.

There's no way the United States can pull its head into its shell and ignore the world. The clinton years should have made that obvious enough.

"Goodness. There are conservatives who seem to want us to lose just as badly as the liberals do."

Yes, and that remark about the orphanage was just ridiculous. My greatest fear is that we will lose the WOT because as a society, or civilization, we won't be willing to do the things needed to defeat the enemy.

Everybody knows we beat the Nazis and the Japs, but do they remember how many people we killed in order to do that. We firebombed Tokyo, and Dresden, we NUKED the Japanese for heaven's sake.

Now in Iraq hundreds of soliders have died, I suppose thousands have been wounded, and I also suppose hundreds or thousands of Iraqis have been killed or wounded. This is not death and destruction on the scale of WWII, or even Viet Nam, or even Korea, but there are many who want to pull out. The same lefties who having acheived their goal of pull out in Viet Nam caused the slaughter and enslavement of tens of thousands of Vietnamese by the Commies. Can one even imagine the slaughter that would ensue if we pulled out of Iraq right now?

Those on the left don't display a failure of nerve, they display a congenital absense of nerve. And I guess that is true of many on the right also. I don't think Mushareff is going to let anybody put his head on a pike anytime soon. What we need to bear in mind is that this conflict will likely get bigger and worse before it is over. I'm afraid Spain is about to learn that lesson in spades.

I am not sure I totally understand his opinion, but he knows he can answer through me [if he so wishes].