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Growing GOP Dissent on Iraq
cbsnews.com ^ | April 7, 2004 | David Paul Kuhn

Posted on 04/08/2004 1:41:59 AM PDT by DayTripper

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1 posted on 04/08/2004 1:42:00 AM PDT by DayTripper
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To: DayTripper
The networks are leading their nightly news broadcasts with stories of dead Americans.

This is evidence of nothing except that the liberal media elites are trying to oust President Bush from office.

The same man than made Perky Katie cry when she announced he won on election day.

The same man that made Dan Rather look fatigued when he announced that it looked like George W. Bush had won on election day (only to find new energy when Gore recanted his concession).

The same party that had an election sweep in 1994 that made Peter Jennings declare "America threw a temper tantrum last".

The same man that Peter Jennings said of on 9/11/01 "some presidents do this sort of thing well, (rolls eyes) while others (pause) do not."

2 posted on 04/08/2004 1:48:11 AM PDT by weegee (Maybe Urban Outfitters should sell t-shirts that say "Voting Democrat is for Old Dead People.")
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3 posted on 04/08/2004 1:49:23 AM PDT by Support Free Republic (I'd rather be sleeping. Let's get this over with so I can go back to sleep!)
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To: weegee
"The O’Reilly Factor." The leading conservative commentator

I thought Rush Limbaugh was the 'leading conservative commentator'?
4 posted on 04/08/2004 1:50:29 AM PDT by Samurai_Jack (I'm not a campaign finance lawyer.... but I did stay at a holiday inn express)
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5 posted on 04/08/2004 1:50:35 AM PDT by weegee (Maybe Urban Outfitters should sell t-shirts that say "Voting Democrat is for Old Dead People.")
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To: DayTripper
This article is so flawed in it's logic and arguments, not to mention it "out of context" interpretation of quotes cited, that it's hardly worth commenting on.
6 posted on 04/08/2004 1:52:41 AM PDT by dawn53
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To: DayTripper
Republican Party ranks are beginning to break and the White House is worried. Longtime GOP critics on Iraq are growing progressively more vocal in their condemnation.

True to form, CBS news remains rabidly anti-Bush. Most of this is wishful thinking on the part of CBS.

The Republican chairman of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, Sen. Richard Lugar of Indiana, has strongly suggested that the Bush administration reconsider its June 30 deadline to transfer sovereignty from the interim government to Iraqis.

Neither Lugar, nor the Senate has any wiggle room on this. The Dems pushed for an exit date on Iraq and got one - June 30. Bush has repeatedly said that this date will not change. Lugar and the rest of the 'Pubbies wenta along and let the Dems lead them - AGAIN! No one from EITHER party has ANY room to complain.

I would like to point out a substantial difference between Bush and his predecessor - when Clinton went into Bosnia, he promised that we would ONLY be there for one (1) year. Well, apparently, he was using another planet's calendar, because we have remained mired in Bosnia for well over one (1) EARTH calendar year. Bush says June 30, the date that the Dems and the UN pushed him to commit to, is the date and we will hand over control of the country to the Iraqis. While I don't believe that the situation will be totally stable at that time, Bush is a man of his word and will, unlike ANY Dem (other than Zell Miller), HONOR his commitment.
7 posted on 04/08/2004 1:56:50 AM PDT by DustyMoment (Repeal CFR NOW!!)
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"I'm not buying this 'Iraqis are on the American side' right now," Fox News’ Bill O’Reilly said on the Tuesday night broadcast of "The O’Reilly Factor."

I don't buy that the majority of muslims in America are on our side either:

Most U.S. Muslims see U.S. as immoral

"...the survey revealed that 85 percent disapprove of the job President Bush is doing."

8 posted on 04/08/2004 1:59:10 AM PDT by weegee (Maybe Urban Outfitters should sell t-shirts that say "Voting Democrat is for Old Dead People.")
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Heck, O'Reilly's not even a conservative.

But then the majority of the press is so far off in left field I guess a *real* moderate like O'Reilly looks about the same as Rush Limbaugh to them...
9 posted on 04/08/2004 2:12:02 AM PDT by swilhelm73
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To: DayTripper
Interesting that, even if you accept the CBS report as 100% accurate, the Republican "dissidents" want to get even TOUGHER in Iraq than the administration; they want MORE troops to be dispatched.

They're hardly "breaking" with the Administration the way the Democrats have.
10 posted on 04/08/2004 2:34:33 AM PDT by Poundstone
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If our political and military resolve fail in Iraq, this country will never again be capable of defending itself. Casualties are a part of war. A necessary part. Why do our young military men and women understand that so much better than politicians and news people?
11 posted on 04/08/2004 3:31:51 AM PDT by billhilly (If you're lurking here from DU, I trust this post will make you sick)
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Usually loyal pundits are speaking out, too. Conservative columnist George Will wrote in The Washington Post on Wednesday, "U.S. forces in Iraq are insufficient."

There are currently 135,000 U.S. soldiers in Iraq – along with 24,000 international troops – and pressure is rising on the Bush administration to increase troop deployment. But the Department of Defense says it plans to decrease the number of U.S. troops in Iraq by tens of thousands around the June 30 deadline.

Does he think we'll have a draft? That's the only way we'll have a measurable increase in troop counts. We don't have enough now in reserve to boost our total in a significant way.

12 posted on 04/08/2004 3:46:30 AM PDT by GraniteStateConservative (...He had committed no crime against America so I did not bring him here...-- Worst.President.Ever.)
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Scarborough: "Do we need more troops in Iraq? Hell, yes, we do. ... Should June 30 handover date to the Iraqis be extended? You can bet your life on it ... because creating this false deadline in time for a presidential election is no way to win a war."

It's about winning an election, Joe. This war won't be won for years and years. First things first.

13 posted on 04/08/2004 3:48:29 AM PDT by GraniteStateConservative (...He had committed no crime against America so I did not bring him here...-- Worst.President.Ever.)
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To: DustyMoment
The Dems pushed for an exit date on Iraq and got one - June 30.


I believe this is the very first time ANYONE has said this. Thank You. I thought I had imagined it.

When they b!tch that this administration is *stubborn*, they mean that they cannot be rolled, although, as this date (and countless other) flap shows: they try.

It is the same w/the accusation of *secrecy*. If I knew there were burrowed Civil Service-protected Dem moles in every department of the government, I'd be secretive, too.

Lugar and Hegel are not supporters of the administration. They both can tick me off easily w/their siding w/the liberals.

And O'Reilly is not a Republican, although he has all but said he is voting for Bush because he cannot imagine Kerry as POTUS and he has recently said the same about Gore.

Scarborough: well, I haven't watched him in a long time. I could be wrong, but I stopped when he began to remind me of Savage. I notice they aren't including Savage, either. That must irritate him.

Calling these sources long time GOP critics is accurate.
14 posted on 04/08/2004 3:48:59 AM PDT by reformedliberal
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To: DayTripper
Sen. Richard Lugar (R - France)....
15 posted on 04/08/2004 3:52:36 AM PDT by Psalm 73 ("Gentlemen, you can't fight in here - this is a war room".)
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"Scarborough: "Do we need more troops in Iraq? Hell, yes, we do. ... Should June 30 handover date to the Iraqis be extended? You can bet your life on it ... because creating this false deadline in time for a presidential election is no way to win a war." I think its been said over and over that if more troops are required by the command in Iraq, they will get them!...and June 30 turn over of the will put the pressure on Iraqi leaders..Its perfect...think about it folks
16 posted on 04/08/2004 3:53:11 AM PDT by rrrod
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To: DustyMoment
"The Dems pushed for an exit date on Iraq and got one - June 30."

It's not an "exit date". Our troops will remain in Iraq long past that date. They will continue to take their orders from Washington. This 30 June date is largely meaningless.
17 posted on 04/08/2004 4:12:09 AM PDT by DugwayDuke
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To: weegee
Looks like See-BS finally decided it was safe to put up a seditious piece after the Fallujah counterattack. And they got to use "body bags"! Nothing tickles the treasonous soul of a Democrat "journalist" quite like using the phrase "body bags" to tear down US troop morale, and morale on the home front.

I can imagine these ghouls writing about Normandy, Tarawa and the Battle of the Bulge.

18 posted on 04/08/2004 4:41:17 AM PDT by an amused spectator (FR: Leaving the burning dog poop bag of Truth on the front door step of the liberal media since 1996)
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To: weegee
"...the survey revealed that 85 percent disapprove of the job President Bush is doing."

I STRONGLY disapprove with the manner in which Muslims living in the USA have conducted themselves before and after 9/11! BUT no one is surveying me!

19 posted on 04/08/2004 4:45:24 AM PDT by TrueBeliever9 (aut viam inveniam aut faciam)
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To: DugwayDuke
I agree. It's mostly symbolic. If people think that after June 30th our troops will be safe, they are leaving in a fantasy land. This is going to last for years, like Bosnia. But I think most people knew that going in.
20 posted on 04/08/2004 4:46:53 AM PDT by Maine For Bush
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