[Il Duce]

It's sort of interesting. I've found that when you really push people that are anti-free trade or anti-NAFTA about what is actually wrong with the trade deal, they really just don't know crap about the darn thing.

The CAFTA or the FTAA is going to be a fact of life, and it will probably be sooner rather than later. There were plenty of chicken littles that were up in arms about having a free trade deal with a developing country (Mexico) in the NAFTA, and they have been proven wrong. They are still wrong.

[Toddsterpatriot]

I've found that when you really push people that are anti-free trade or anti-NAFTA about what is actually wrong with the trade deal, they really just don't know crap about the darn thing.

Yeah, they usually say that the lower prices we get, let's say on steel, are bad because after our steel industry goes under, foreign companies or countries will then hike their prices.

So, to protect us from higher prices in some indefinite future, we must pay those higher prices now!!!! Our future is at stake!!! LOL.

[ninenot]

Yes, Todd, they will buy something from America, eventually: T-bonds, as I posted above.

MAYBE they'll buy a tractor from Case, or a dozer from Cat.

There were plenty of chicken littles that were up in arms about having a free trade deal with a developing country (Mexico) in the NAFTA, and they have been proven wrong. They are still wrong.

As to you, former Italian dictator: prove it.

Tell the ex-employees of Evinrude/Milwaukee how Mexico had NOTHING to do with them being displaced.

Tell the ex-employees of AOSmith/Tower Automotive in Milwaukee that Mexico had NOTHING to do with their unemployment.

Tell them that. They will rub your thick skull into the Mexican dust surrounding the plants, in Mexico, where the jobs went.

But you don't have the balls to come up here and try, do you?

[american spirit]

Isn't it also interesting that since this free trade idiocy came on the scene roughly 20 yrs. ago that personal, corporate and fedgov debt has skyrocketed and along with that the loss of whole industries to foreign competition that has no problem using child or slave labor. With NAFTA we've seen a flood of illegal immigration when we were promised a much different result for the Mexican economy. With these illegals coming in here we now see employers around the country letting go Americans so that they can pay illegals under the table and EVADE a whole bunch of payroll taxes. Now if you're unable to see the linkage in these nation destructing policies then I strongly suggest some reverse rectal cranial inversion exercises.

[XBob]

18 - "There were plenty of chicken littles that were up in arms about having a free trade deal with a developing country (Mexico) in the NAFTA, and they have been proven wrong. They are still wrong."

So, turning a US trade surplus with Mexico of $2 billion into a trade deficit of $17 billion is a great idea?

Duh!!