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Analysis: A mini-Tet offensive in Iraq
UPI ^
| 4/6/2004 4:12 PM
| Arnaud de Borchgrave
Posted on 04/07/2004 12:06:22 AM PDT by rob777
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Of course the big difference now is that there is no longer a complete media monopoly.
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posted on
04/07/2004 12:06:22 AM PDT
by
rob777
To: All
To: rob777
Of course the big difference now is that there is no longer a complete media monopoly. There's FOX and there's us. :-)
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posted on
04/07/2004 12:09:00 AM PDT
by
Polybius
To: rob777
Iraq will only be another Vietnam if the home front collapses, as it did following the Tet offensive, which began on the eve of the Chinese New Year, Jan. 31, 1968.
Hint for reporters trying hard to compare Iraq to Vietnam: The war in Iraq is over with. The government has been completely removed and a new one is replacing it, the military was completely defeated. Military victory has long ago occurred, most prisoners of war have been released, etc, etc, etc.
You know, if I had a few hundred million sitting around that I wanted to waste, I'd put up a national ad campaign to clear up this idiocy. The war is over; this isn't even mop up operations after the war. Call it a huge peacekeeping operation, for lack of a better term.
But of course, comparing it to Vietnam is one of the ways that liberal and even conservative reporters keep using to maintain public interest.
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posted on
04/07/2004 12:33:32 AM PDT
by
kingu
(Which would you bet on? Iraq and Afghanistan? Or Haiti and Kosovo?)
To: rob777
Before plunging into an orgy of erroneous and invidious historical parallels between Iraq and Vietnam,... Nice lead in. Very Novel. Tell the reader EXACTLY what you are going to do . . .
I guess we must accept that every military engagement will be a "new Vietnam".
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posted on
04/07/2004 12:43:33 AM PDT
by
An.American.Expatriate
(A vote for JF'nK is a vote for Peace in our Time!)
To: An.American.Expatriate
"While failure is not an option for Bush, it clearly is for Sen. Edward Kennedy, D-Mass., who called Iraq the president's Vietnam. It is, of course, no such animal. But it could become so if Congressional resolve dissolves."
And Dean comparing Bush to Nixon - must be that '70's nostagia. Try to get the Baby Boom generation to remember their "roots" in '60's (and '70's) activism. I don't think it will work - they're either too busy trying to raise kids or making money. (Or, they forgot it all due to all the drugs!)
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posted on
04/07/2004 1:15:41 AM PDT
by
geopyg
(Democracy, whiskey, sexy)
To: rob777
Yep...only an IDIOT from UPI like this guy could compare this to Tet!
But of course, idiots like this misreported Tet also!
When are we going to able to just shoot these lying bastards?
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posted on
04/07/2004 1:17:23 AM PDT
by
Fledermaus
(Ðíé F£éðérmáú§ ^;;^ says, "Fallujah would make a lovely glass table top!")
To: Polybius
There's FOX and there's us. :-)And talk radio!
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posted on
04/07/2004 1:21:19 AM PDT
by
Travis McGee
(----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
To: Fledermaus
The article is typical French rubbish about Iraq, consider the source, Arnaud de Borchgrave.
To: John Lenin
Exactly!
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posted on
04/07/2004 1:23:23 AM PDT
by
Fledermaus
(Ðíé F£éðérmáú§ ^;;^ says, "Fallujah would make a lovely glass table top!")
To: John Lenin
The article is typical French rubbish about Iraq, consider the source, Arnaud de Borchgrave. De Borchgrave happens to be the former editor in chief of the Washington Times, a very conservative newpaper, and is a man whose views are worthy of respect.
-ccm
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posted on
04/07/2004 1:30:04 AM PDT
by
ccmay
To: ccmay
He comes across on TV as a leftist, he has me fooled.
To: Fledermaus
Yep...only an IDIOT from UPI like this guy could compare this to Tet! But of course, idiots like this misreported Tet also! Did you actually read the article?
To: kingu
In order to equate this war with Vietnam, John Kerry would also have to shoot an unarmed wounded enemy soldier in this one.
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posted on
04/07/2004 1:38:29 AM PDT
by
Hillarys Gate Cult
(Proud member of the right wing extremist Neanderthals.)
To: Ichneumon
Yes I did.
Borchgrave is a pious idiot. But I let that cloud my reading and you are correct. Thank you for pointing out to me I wasn't reading it clearly enough.
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posted on
04/07/2004 1:40:10 AM PDT
by
Fledermaus
(Ðíé F£éðérmáú§ ^;;^ says, "Fallujah would make a lovely glass table top!")
To: Fledermaus
Yep...only an IDIOT from UPI like this guy could compare this to Tet! This article is spot on. The author makes the point that we WON Tet big time on the battlefield and lost it as Walter Cronkite and his fellow travelers in the media pounded the homefront into rubble.
What do you think Cronkite's successors ABCCBSNBCCNN are trying to do today? Whether the American people can withstand this assault by the vicious dogs that run the media is a very open question, in my mind. Hence, the possible analogy to Tet.
To: ModelBreaker
Read my post #13.
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posted on
04/07/2004 2:00:43 AM PDT
by
Fledermaus
(Ðíé F£éðérmáú§ ^;;^ says, "Fallujah would make a lovely glass table top!")
To: rob777
we WON the Tet offensive.
But the press spun it as a loss....
And the press never did get around to reporting the mass graves of Vietnamese civilians killed by the Viet Cong during the offensive.
I see the press is again spinning defeat out of victory...
Ah, but the young folks read blogs...
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posted on
04/07/2004 5:09:49 AM PDT
by
LadyDoc
(liberals only love politically correct poor people)
To: Dog
More Tet in the news.
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posted on
04/07/2004 5:10:20 AM PDT
by
Pan_Yans Wife
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To: ccmay
On most matters, he is rather conservative. But when he wades into Middle Eastern matters -- especially Israel -- his views skew leftward.
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posted on
04/07/2004 5:16:42 AM PDT
by
BroncosFan
("Friends help friends move. Real friends help you move bodies.")
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