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IRAQ: 12 Marines, 66 Iraqis Killed in Battles
The Las Vegas Sun ^ | April 06, 2004 at 18:16:01 PDT | HAMZA HENDAWI

Posted on 04/06/2004 6:22:06 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach

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To: Tribune7
>>How many of those soldiers & Marines do you feel don't believe in their mission?<<

I don't know. But they will do the work they signed on for regardless. Too bad the politicians fail them.
221 posted on 04/06/2004 8:51:30 PM PDT by Greg Weston
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To: Greg Weston
Which stupid neo-cons are you talking about? My guess is that you are talking about the Civilians that are running the war. Bremer, Rumsfeld, Wolfasomething, etc.
222 posted on 04/06/2004 8:51:53 PM PDT by I got the rope
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To: I got the rope
That's some of them...
223 posted on 04/06/2004 8:53:11 PM PDT by Greg Weston
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To: Luis Gonzalez; Joe Hadenuf
"This is probably going to be an e-mail not liked by some but here goes anyway. I think we need to find out what means something to these animals (and something has to) perhaps their families. There has to be a love for their children or wives, more than likely their children more than their wives. These scumbags don't care about themselves because they feel they are being martyrs for the "greater good" of their people. You know what, that's fine but if they think that once they do something like homicide bomb innocent people, that their children will be killed at our hands not on their terms such as raising them to also be homicide bombers they might think an extra second about it.

Like I said, this is horrible to think about but if doing this would have people second guess they're primative thought and mmost impotantly save American lives then guess what.... I don't think there are many other choices."


As irony would have it, I posted this on 2/11/04 to Joe Hadenuf, I still think this would make some think ???
224 posted on 04/06/2004 8:55:09 PM PDT by Hand em their arse
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To: Luis Gonzalez
Or do you prefer fighting them at your front door?

Fight who at our doors?

Are they going to send their armies here? Or just sneak in a few hundred or thousand with agendas of death?

Are you talking about stopping the million man conga line at the border? Or are you thinking their going to send their airforce or navy here?

They send in teams to inflict damage.

You think?

Why risk losing one or more members, and jeopardizing the operation by trying to sneak across the SW border, when they can simply get a Visa and some airplane tickets?

Oh they're going that route again eh Louie? Got it all figured out huh?

So we just ignore those trucks entering with tons of pot, trucks with 80 people crammed in, and we all know they miss the huge majority of this. Who knows what could already be in this country. Don't think it could happen louie? Do you not see what else could possibly enter?

Mexico is a corrupt country, they do anything for a bribe. A million enter every year from God knows where. Are you starting to see a slight security risk here? Think hard Louie, you need not be a security expert.

And no Louie, we wont kill them all on the dusty streets of Iraq, or any other country. Not even a tiny fraction.

225 posted on 04/06/2004 8:56:16 PM PDT by Joe Hadenuf (I failed anger management class, they decided to give me a passing grade anyway)
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To: MEG33
hahaha, every time you think you're out, he keeps pulling you back in, huh?
226 posted on 04/06/2004 8:58:21 PM PDT by Hand em their arse
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To: Joe Hadenuf
One note,always the one note.
227 posted on 04/06/2004 9:00:11 PM PDT by MEG33 (John Kerry's been AWOL for two decades on issues of National Security!)
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To: MEG33
Brilliant!
228 posted on 04/06/2004 9:01:25 PM PDT by Joe Hadenuf (I failed anger management class, they decided to give me a passing grade anyway)
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To: Greg Weston
I don't know, I had always thought that soldiers kill people and break stuff... Sounds like they're doing what they signed up for to me...
229 posted on 04/06/2004 9:01:36 PM PDT by Hand em their arse
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To: Joe Hadenuf
Oh!

Only YOU have it all figured out Joey?

You're the holder of all knowledge Joey?

Here's a fact: they didn't come in through the SW border, did they Joey?

By the way...it would be far easier to enter across the Canadian border, or land anywhere on the coast than to enter through the SW border.

Or even come in legally just like the last time.

You hate everything Mexican Joey, and that's YOUR problem, blinded by your hatred.
230 posted on 04/06/2004 9:02:18 PM PDT by Luis Gonzalez (Sin Pátria, pero sin amo.)
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To: Joe Hadenuf
My pleasure.
231 posted on 04/06/2004 9:02:41 PM PDT by MEG33 (John Kerry's been AWOL for two decades on issues of National Security!)
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To: dodger
Some folks say, As a useful point of reference, the range for annual murders in New York City over the past 13 years is from a Guiliani-led low of ~650 to a liberoid-led high of 2,262 in 1990.

This is not a useful point of reference. There are Millions of people in New York City. There are 120,000 troops stuck in the middle east.
232 posted on 04/06/2004 9:02:45 PM PDT by TomasUSMC
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To: Iberian
The Marines (new forces, just replaced)are just settling down. The first round is over and they listen to their corners. I personally would not want to be on the other end. Round 2 starts tomorrow. Good luck finding enough virgins for all of the pajama wearing scumbags.

I'm confident you are right. Having read the book "The March Up", I was amazed by the ability of the USMC to process "lessons learned" and direct appropriate tactical responses in nearly real time. It may be because their Lt. and Major Generals and top field commanders are on the ground, at or near the front.

233 posted on 04/06/2004 9:06:42 PM PDT by Barlowmaker
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To: MEG33; Luis Gonzalez
You got to read about this incident with JF Kerry:

John Kerry has the Hillary attitude

234 posted on 04/06/2004 9:08:20 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (The terrorists and their supporters declared war on the United States - and war is what they got!!!!)
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To: Joe Hadenuf; Greg Weston
Good night guys, look forward to debating with you again soon...
235 posted on 04/06/2004 9:11:31 PM PDT by Hand em their arse
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To: Luis Gonzalez
Oh

Only YOU have it all figured out Joey?

You're the holder of all knowledge Joey?

Here's a fact: they didn't come in through the SW border, did they Joey?

Boy, what an intelligent snappy answer. But..er no louie they didn't.

If 19 terrorist entered, no problemo, could not hundreds have already entered or enter. How about those trucks that never get caught with 80 people crammed inside. Lets see, could those people be replaced really mean cargo??

For all you know louie, they could be serving you your slurpy at greedy mart in downtown Miami.

So........ Since they didn't enter their the first time through our borders means it will never happen? Are you serious?

Please louie, do us a slight favor, don't ever go into the security business.

236 posted on 04/06/2004 9:12:38 PM PDT by Joe Hadenuf (I failed anger management class, they decided to give me a passing grade anyway)
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To: Hand em their arse
Take care!
237 posted on 04/06/2004 9:12:58 PM PDT by Joe Hadenuf (I failed anger management class, they decided to give me a passing grade anyway)
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To: SandRat
"Perhaps an even better reference point is this - - -
The Dieppe Raid that lasted only one day, cost 907 dead among the allied commandos"

Nope. Wrong. In World War Two we had 20 million men under arms, we don't have a fraction of that today. 12 men in one day is like 1200 back in WW2 and at least we were fighting with no hands tied behind our backs. Today the Marine First Division motto was recently changed to "Do NO Harm First".

That is PC taken to the suicide extreme.
238 posted on 04/06/2004 9:15:48 PM PDT by TomasUSMC
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To: SandRat
Bump.

A friend and co-worker has a cousin who is a Marine and is right in the middle of all this. All I can think about is how he is doing right now. I'm praying for him and his fellow Marines to get through this battle.

239 posted on 04/06/2004 9:17:16 PM PDT by Missouri
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To: TomasUSMC
Today the Marine First Division motto was recently changed to "Do NO Harm First". That is PC taken to the suicide extreme.

That's disturbing.

240 posted on 04/06/2004 9:17:29 PM PDT by Joe Hadenuf (I failed anger management class, they decided to give me a passing grade anyway)
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