NRA: Kerry 'No Friend of the 2nd Amendment'

AP News ^ | April 6, 2004 | Dan Nephin

[FlyVet]

Meanwhile, gun control advocates plan to hold their own events. They include a teach-in at the University of Pittsburgh,

A teach-in. How quaint. So 60's.

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[lilylangtree]

Well duh! Did the NRA really expect a wealthy, narrow-minded, northeastern, protesting, socialist, elitist to be a friend? No way!

[GailA]

hanoi john on gun control

[looscnnn]

"A teach-in. How quaint. So 60's."

Kerry should right at home.

[joesnuffy]

Kerry did for Iran Contra-Mena what Starr did for
Clinton's China gate

He is no friend of America any more than any other of the 'narco terrorists flooding American with drugs through our wide open borders is..

Kerry is just one more elitist 3rd way new world odor Satanist Marxist...

imo

[Zeppo]

The accidental fatal shooting of a letter carrier last summer by a 9-year-old boy in suburban Pittsburgh underscores the need for such a law, Glosser said. The boy's mother, Latoya Burnette, is charged with illegally possessing a handgun under federal law. She was not permitted to have it after her 2000 conviction for assault with a deadly weapon in North Carolina.

"We're not antigun. We're not against the responsible ownership of firearms," Glosser said. "We're in favor of laws that will keep guns out of the hands of children, the mentally ill and criminals."

Glosser is the perfect example of a gun-control nut without a clue. The example that he uses to illustrate the supposed need to keep guns out of the hands of "children, the mentally ill and criminals" is one where the death was directly due to the actions of someone who violated an existing a law that already should keep guns out of the hands of criminals. So, is he claiming that if another law were on the books, it would have kept Latoya Burnette from posessing the gun (doubtful, since she was already violating the law), or only that she could have been tried in a state court instead of Federal court (in which case it would not have prevented the death of the letter carrier)?

[Bedford Forrest]

LaPierre said the convention would be "a celebration of this American freedom to own firearms and hunt"

If he said that, his formulation is weak on several counts. First, the term "American freedom" is ambiguous because it could be taken to mean a freedom granted by the [US] government. The correct term, always, is "God-given freedom", [vestiges of which have not yet been infringed upon or eliminated by governments state and federal.] Second, the right in question is the right to keep [possess] and bear arms, not merely to own them. We have not yet arrived at the sorry pass of the Eurotrash and the Brits, where firearms may be "owned", but only if kept at the shooting club, etc. Last, it is never a good idea for any proponent of our God given right to keep and bear arms to conflate or in any other manner associate that sacred right with the right to hunt. All wild game is ferrrae naturae, the taking of which has been controlled by the state since Roman times. Very simply, so that even the very dim and very French Monsieur Kerry can understand the point, there is no Constitutionally protected right to take ring-necked pheasant, or any other wild game. As all Real Americans understand in their souls, the Second Amendment has nothing whatsoever to do with mulies, elk and white tails. Once again, LaPierre has shown his taste for the capillaries rather than the jugular.

[ibbryn]

Wasn't this the kid who at first claimed he was aiming at a tree and shot the letter carrier accidently? I think it turned out he delibertly aimed at the carrier.

[Eric in the Ozarks]

Without the NRA, we'd have Algore in the White House. Clinton said so.

[Zeppo]

You have a very good memory (better than mine!). See this article for more complete information.

[Zeppo]

All wild game is ferrrae naturae, the taking of which has been controlled by the state since Roman times.

A very interesting line of argument - while I haven't really studied 2nd amendment history, I certainly understand that the benefit of having armed citizens is to put a check on government power, and you have illuminated an excellent reason why hunting has nothing whatsoever to do with the 2nd...

[Bedford Forrest]

You are absolutely correct. But just once I would like to see a Tom Delay, take no prisoners type running the NRA. It does no good for the cause of freedom when LaPierre, who gets paid the big bucks to understand the meaning of words, implies that the rights protected by the 2nd Amendment somehow overlap with hunting, which is and always has been a privilege bestowed upon the untermenchen on such terms and conditions as the state, in its sole discretion, may decree. But certainly he deserves our gratitude for protecting us from the Goron. Losing Tennessee and West Virginia has to be the thing that turned the Goron into a burnt out, howling maniac, foaming at the mouth. And LaPierre pulled that off, no one can deny.

[Dec31,1999]

LaPierre said the convention would be "a celebration of this American freedom to own firearms and hunt" and would reflect on the expansion of gun rights over the past 25 years. Back then, he said, only a handful of states had right-to-carry laws; now 37 have them.

I'll give you the bit about the right to hunt, but the rest of it is right on the money.

[Bedford Forrest]

". . .the benefit of having armed citizens. . . ."

Yes, in the same sense that the benefit of oxygen is conducive to living, as the Framers knew well. A good and succint summary of their reasoning on the subject you mentioned is in Justice Story's Commentaries.

[Dec31,1999]

LaPierre said the convention would be "a celebration of this American freedom to own firearms and hunt" and would reflect on the expansion of gun rights over the past 25 years. Back then, he said, only a handful of states had right-to-carry laws; now 37 have them.

I'll give you the bit about the right to hunt, but the rest of it is right on the money.

[Dec31,1999]

LaPierre said the convention would be "a celebration of this American freedom to own firearms and hunt" and would reflect on the expansion of gun rights over the past 25 years. Back then, he said, only a handful of states had right-to-carry laws; now 37 have them.

I'll give you the bit about the right to hunt, but the rest of it is right on the money.

[Dec31,1999]

Sorry about the triple post! That happens when I check the thread with this browser. Ouch!

[TERMINATTOR]

Switch that assault browser from three round burst to semi-auto!

Molon Labe!