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Kurt Cobain: Still Dead (And Other Observations)
Intellectual Conservative ^
| 06 April 2004
| Brian S. Wise
Posted on 04/06/2004 9:42:49 AM PDT by presidio9
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posted on
04/06/2004 9:42:50 AM PDT
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presidio9
To: presidio9
Most rock journalism is people who can't write interviewing people who can't talk for people who can't read. -- Frank Zappa
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04/06/2004 9:47:38 AM PDT
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04/06/2004 9:47:47 AM PDT
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To: presidio9
Anyone remember Ian Curtis of Joy Division? By comparison, Nirvana seems like silly pop music by an over-rated hack.
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posted on
04/06/2004 9:55:15 AM PDT
by
ffusco
(Maecilius Fuscus,Governor of Longovicium , Manchester, England. 238-244 AD)
To: ffusco; martin_fierro
I want to go on record as saying that I think Nirvana was one of the most important bands in Rock N Roll history. The author's obsevation that the band's success was a result of a unique confluence of events is particularly asinine. The same could be said about any popular cultural phenominon.
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posted on
04/06/2004 10:00:15 AM PDT
by
presidio9
("There are no mistakes -- only Happy Accidents." -Bob Ross)
To: presidio9
Many in Gen-X had a lot to be fed up with. On the surface, they were fed up with the big-hair bubble gum bands of the 80's. The likes of New Kids on the Block and Millie Vanillie only made it worse. Deeper though, many perceived themselves as having been shortchanged by the social experiments of the late 60's and 70's. The attempt to find solace for the latch-key childhood and broken homes in wanton materialism proved a failure. Gen-Xers as a group felt they had an emptyness with nothing to fill. Later in the decade, many discovered something that would fill that emptyness- God. The rapid growth of contemporary churches is a sure sign of that discovery.
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posted on
04/06/2004 10:03:03 AM PDT
by
bobjam
To: presidio9
Interesting. I never got into Nirvana as they hit the scene right after I got out of college. There have been other music tragedies of course. Stevie Ray Vaughn was one for me as I saw him play in Atlanta in the summer of 1990 just a week or so before he was killed. Morrison, Hendrix, Bonham, etc. were are genre icons who's losses meant a change in the music itself. Cobain is another in a long list.
To: presidio9
Keep in mind the old addage that success is where preparation and opportunity meet. The opportunity was there for them to affect change. The "glam rock" genre had just about run it's course then and it was time for something new.
To: presidio9
F***ing Barf! Cobain was a talentless hack who played rehashed 70's rock. The only thing that bothered me about him taking the easy way out was that I'd be forced to listed to that garbage 24/7 for awhile. Bah!
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posted on
04/06/2004 10:11:13 AM PDT
by
rattrap
To: ffusco
"Love Will Tear Us Apart"...angst on vinyl.
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posted on
04/06/2004 10:15:11 AM PDT
by
KateUTWS
To: rattrap
Why are we wasting bandwidth on a low-talented idiot who succeeded more by taking his own life than by anything he ever did in life?
Calling Cobain or Nirvana "important" or anything other than a "waste of time" is totally stupid.
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posted on
04/06/2004 10:15:43 AM PDT
by
1L
To: Wyatt's Torch
The "glam rock" genre had just about run it's course then and it was time for something new.Some of the "Glam rock" acts tried to become a part of the changing climate of rock music, they went so far as to change just how they sounded. The "glam rockers" undoubtedly carved out their own sounds for years, but once Nirvana showed up on the stage, everyone wanted to sound like Nirvana. It's like KISS doing disco back in the days. When disco died, they carved out their own sound.
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posted on
04/06/2004 10:16:34 AM PDT
by
BigSkyFreeper
(Liberalism is Communism one drink at a time. - P.J. O'Rourke)
To: presidio9
The General concurs...
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posted on
04/06/2004 10:17:41 AM PDT
by
joesnuffy
(Moderate Islam Is For Dilettantes)
To: KateUTWS
Insight
Guess your dreams always end
They don't rise up just descend
But I don't care anymore
I've lost the will to want more
I'm not afraid not at all
I watch them all as they fall
But I remember when we were young
Those with habits of waste
Their sense of style and good taste
Of making sure you were right
Hey don't you know you were right?
I'm not afraid anymore
I keep my eyes on the door
But I remember....
Tears of sadness for you
More upheaval for you
Reflects a moment in time
A special moment in time
Yeah, we are wasted our time
We didn't really have time
But we remember when we were young
And all of God's angels beware
And all you judges beware
Sons of chance, take good care
For all the people not there
I'm not afraid anymore
Oh, I'm not afraid anymore
Ian Kevin Curtis 1956-1980
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posted on
04/06/2004 10:25:00 AM PDT
by
ffusco
(Maecilius Fuscus,Governor of Longovicium , Manchester, England. 238-244 AD)
To: presidio9
I want to go on record as saying that I think Nirvana was one of the most important bands in Rock N Roll history. The Record Shall So Reflect.
Not that anyone gives a flying f*** anyway.
<|:)~
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posted on
04/06/2004 10:26:16 AM PDT
by
martin_fierro
(Fingers of Fury™)
To: martin_fierro
Admit it: You hang on my every word. After reading my opinion, you immediately went to Amazon and bought "Nevermind."
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posted on
04/06/2004 10:31:41 AM PDT
by
presidio9
("There are no mistakes -- only Happy Accidents." -Bob Ross)
To: presidio9
I think Cobain just listened to too much of his own music and finally said: "A lot of this just really sucks" and KA-BLAMMO.
To: presidio9
"Rock music is mostly about moving big black boxes from one side of town to the other in the back of your car."
--David Thomas
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posted on
04/06/2004 10:36:31 AM PDT
by
GSWarrior
(Obsessed with sects.)
To: rattrap
Rehased 70's rock???
Are you saying that just to say it or do you really feel that way?
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posted on
04/06/2004 10:40:38 AM PDT
by
Conservomax
(shill: One who poses as a satisfied customer or an enthusiastic gambler to dupe bystanders into part)
To: bobjam
Every time I hear about Gen-X and angst, I want to vomit. I would like to see these kids walk a mile in their grandparents shoes. The biggest hardship kids today have to face is when the cable goes out.
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posted on
04/06/2004 10:42:27 AM PDT
by
MJM59
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