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Moving to Linux may not save money--yet
CNET News.com ^ | April 5, 2004 | Matt Hines

Posted on 04/05/2004 11:23:03 AM PDT by Bush2000

Moving to Linux may not save money--yet
Last modified: April 5, 2004, 9:45 AM PDT
By Matt Hines
Staff Writer, CNET News.com



Migrating to open-source software may cost some companies more than simply upgrading their Unix or Windows systems, according to a study research company The Yankee Group released Monday.

Based on a survey of 1,000 information technology administrators and corporate executives at companies around the globe, Yankee's report concluded that the technical merits promised by Linux and applications built to run on the operating system have yet to overcome financial concerns related to adopting the software. At companies with 5,000 or fewer users, Linux can save more money than other systems, including Unix and Microsoft's Windows software, said the Boston-based company.

"Clearly, many people who have Linux like it a lot, but if you propose a wholesale swap to most large companies, you're looking at a significant up-front cost, and many executives are asking why they should do it," said Yankee analyst Laura DiDio, who authored the report.

Much of the expense of the open-source migration comes from shifting the IT architecture, DiDio said. However, many executives are reconsidering such a move because of a growing number of security threats and a dearth of experienced Linux administrators. Improved security has been one of the primary advantages Linux promises.

Another concern among users is the relatively small number of applications available on Linux, compared with Unix or Windows.

"Everyone has a Linux strategy, even if it's just to throw rocks at Microsoft," DiDio said. "But executives are asking if the advantages of Linux are substantial enough to justify the expense and inherent headaches of swapping all of their systems."

In response to the survey, Linux vendors said their customers often garner sizable savings from moving to their software. Leigh Day, a spokesman for Red Hat, the top seller of the Linux operating system, said their customers who switched say they have opportunities to spend less. Customers can also shift to cheaper hardware, specifically lower-cost Intel-based systems, she said.

According to DiDio, however, Microsoft has made inroads with many customers who were considering Linux. For example, the company has been improving its ability to protect against security threats and has reworded its product warranties to convince end users that it is willing to take on greater levels of liability than its Linux rivals.

Although Linux advocates will argue that open-source software will provide long-term savings, the analyst said executives remain unconvinced that the Linux market is currently mature enough to serve their needs.

"A lot of end users feel it's perhaps still better to deal with the devil you know than deal with the devil you don't know," she said. "They feel that it's great that Linux is out there as an alternative--in particular to Microsoft--but market maturity and the number of available applications are major concerns."

Yankee said it conducted the survey with Sunbelt Software and that the research was not sponsored by any outside company.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Technical
KEYWORDS: linux; lowqualitycrap
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Don't shoot the messenger, Linux evangelists. I'm merely posting an article.
1 posted on 04/05/2004 11:23:08 AM PDT by Bush2000
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2 posted on 04/05/2004 11:25:15 AM PDT by Support Free Republic (Don't be a nuancy boy)
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To: Bush2000
I think big companies are also shying away since SCO seems to be trying to stick it's hands into some of the deeper pocketed users out there...
3 posted on 04/05/2004 11:33:56 AM PDT by MD_Willington_1976
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To: Bush2000
At companies with 5,000 or fewer users, Linux can save more money than other systems

That's most companies, right there.
I wonder if they included the effects of LongHorn upgrades...

4 posted on 04/05/2004 11:38:02 AM PDT by Izzy Dunne (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help me spread by copying me into YOUR tag line.)
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To: Bush2000
It's certainly true:

If you're currently a victim of MS Single-vendor lockin, it will cost you some up-front coin to get off the MS upgrade merry-go-round.

You'll save money in the long run, of course . . . but up-front you'll have migration costs.

5 posted on 04/05/2004 11:40:23 AM PDT by Dominic Harr
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To: Bush2000
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6 posted on 04/05/2004 11:58:03 AM PDT by P8riot (A friend will help you move. A good friend will help you move a body.)
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To: Bush2000
There are always several legitimate factors to take into account when switching systems, and this is definitely one of them. Of course, those CEOs worried about up-front cost might smile five years down the line when they realize they haven't been paying Software Assurance all that time.
7 posted on 04/05/2004 12:11:11 PM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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To: MD_Willington_1976
Litigation (especially the specious type of litigation that SCO is involved in) is probably THE reason why many companies are more hesitant about switching to some form of Linux. They don't want the hassle of some ambulance-chasing lawyers dive-bombing them because they see deep pockets.

I have been in meetings where Linux migrations are contemplated and hardware costs are hardly the concern. As far as the migration costs (reprogramming, moving from SQL Server to Oracle [or whatever], etc.) is a little different. Of course, many of these issues have to be contemplated when upgrading Windows, though admittedly to less of an extent. The upgrade from NT 4.0 to XP Pro was a major effort, most of which included sizable (and quite expensive) hardware upgrades.

The most interesting discussion I have heard is the well-known "thin client" approach, which we all started to read/hear about several years ago. McNealy and Ellison have been chatting this up for many years. But, it always seemed to fall on its face a bit.

[Aside]

Changes to Linux-based desktop OSs is changing how "thin clients" can be deployed. There are many new desktop-oriented distros that are starting to turn some heads (e.g., Xandros, Lycoris, Ximian/SUSE). Are these as easy to use as Windows? For most, no. But they have a good GUI, are easy to lock, and provide some customization that the typical user likes (backgrounds, themes, and other cosmetic stuff that users like).

I personally think that if people are to be valuable (to their current or potential employer), they need to be prepared to use both. Most didn't know where to even begin when all there was was a prompt. Now that there are some GUIs that "help" the user, the user base will be much more receptive about learning.

With this change (both with the GUI developments and the change in user openness to using something other than Windows), the thin client seems to be a bit more possible, even if some of the particulars about the "thin client" model have changed. For instance, most "thin client" proponents always talked about the productivity suite tools (word processor, spreadsheet, etc.) being hosted on a server, where OpenOffice and other opensource stuff is still installed on the actual client machine.

[/Aside]

With the substantial increase in web-based enterprise applications, the thin-client seems to be more plausible for corporate environments more now than ever. Throw in a decent web browser (Netscape or open version Mozilla), mail client (including mail, calendaring, etc...such as Ximian's Evolution), instant messaging tool (such as GAIM), a decent Solitaire game, and a couple of dozen "cool" themes (background/screensaver/etc.) and you have pretty much hit the affinities of 70-80% of the corporate user base.

I really don't think that the "game" is much more complex than that. If you are taking about converting users, you have to give them an easy to use tool. Holding onto the prompt and chastizing those who use Linux GUIs is no way to gain market share. In fact, I would argue that that type of elitist attitude is probably what turns people off to Linux. The last thing they need is "Nick, the computer guy" (ala Saturday Night Live) to taunt them because they can't use the prompt.

It has a ways to go, but there are certainly the seeds of major desktop competition. Add the ease of use to the extension of the life span of the hardware that a company has already purchased and that is fairly attractive proposition for any corporation.

8 posted on 04/05/2004 12:27:13 PM PDT by mattdono (Big Arnie: "Crush the democrats, drive them before you, and hear the lamentations of the scumbags.")
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To: mattdono
For reading...

Here is a review of the newest version of the SUSE 9.1 Pro.

9 posted on 04/05/2004 12:42:12 PM PDT by mattdono (Big Arnie: "Crush the democrats, drive them before you, and hear the lamentations of the scumbags.")
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To: Bush2000
Laura Didiot has a way with ignoring facts, most lately with the SCO v. IBM suit. The woman is truly clueless. Her drivel isn't worth the effort of a response. I'll just toss this one onto the pile of Didiot's Microsoft-funded articles.
10 posted on 04/05/2004 12:45:07 PM PDT by geek_penguin (Disclaimer: This post may contain anti-SCO sentiment secretly sponsored by IBM.)
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To: mattdono
And...

Here's a review of Xandros Linux.

11 posted on 04/05/2004 1:03:10 PM PDT by mattdono (Big Arnie: "Crush the democrats, drive them before you, and hear the lamentations of the scumbags.")
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To: Bush2000
.. if you propose a wholesale swap to most large companies, you're looking at a significant up-front cost..

Well, duh. You replace the server room first, then you worry about the user desktops. Just eliminating the Windows server licenses and CALs will save a lot of money in the first year, which can be applied to the desktop migration and re-training costs next year.

Another concern among users is the relatively small number of applications available on Linux..

Companies rarely use off-the-shelf software for back-end functions; they hire consultants and developers for a custom solution. So the lower cost of FOSS development tools figures into this as well.

.. the analyst said executives remain unconvinced that the Linux market is currently mature enough to serve their needs.

Support contracts with IBM and Novell, et al, can help soothe these fears.

"A lot of end users feel it's perhaps still better to deal with the devil you know than deal with the devil you don't know," [DiDio] said.

Inertia may well be Microsoft's best advantage. But the risk-takers in the business world who ignore the FUD will reap the rewards of lower costs. Lots of them already have.

12 posted on 04/05/2004 2:20:29 PM PDT by TechJunkYard
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To: geek_penguin
Laura Didiot has a way with ignoring facts, most lately with the SCO v. IBM suit.
Microsoft has made inroads with many customers who were considering Linux. For example, the company... has reworded its product warranties to convince end users that it is willing to take on greater levels of liability than its Linux rivals.

Still on that "indemnification" kick, ignoring the fact that SCO has only filed suit against current and former SCO licensees.

The woman is simply not credible.

13 posted on 04/05/2004 2:31:10 PM PDT by TechJunkYard
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To: TechJunkYard; geek_penguin
The woman is simply not credible among Linux advocates

Corrected it for you.
14 posted on 04/05/2004 3:25:06 PM PDT by Bush2000
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To: geek_penguin
Laura Didiot has a way with ignoring facts, most lately with the SCO v. IBM suit. The woman is truly clueless. Her drivel isn't worth the effort of a response. I'll just toss this one onto the pile of Didiot's Microsoft-funded articles.

Yeah, right, whatever. With content-free posts like yours, I'd expect you to do no less. If you have problems with the content of the article, discuss them; otherwise, you're wasting bandwidth.
15 posted on 04/05/2004 3:26:40 PM PDT by Bush2000
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To: P8riot
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Reference?
16 posted on 04/05/2004 3:27:19 PM PDT by Bush2000
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To: TechJunkYard
Still on that "indemnification" kick, ignoring the fact that SCO has only filed suit against current and former SCO licensees.

So IBM has finally agreed to indemnify users?
17 posted on 04/05/2004 3:43:20 PM PDT by Bush2000
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To: Dominic Harr
You'll save money in the long run, of course . . . but up-front you'll have migration costs.

So when is CSC migrating? Still using Windows for all of your development?
18 posted on 04/05/2004 3:47:26 PM PDT by Bush2000
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To: Bush2000
A different article from a different source, but with similar conclusions: open source is the poor mans's solution, but those with more and better options are willing to continue to pay for quality.

http://www.itweb.co.za/sections/software/2004/0404051037.asp?A=LIN&S=Open%20Source&O=FPT

[Johannesburg, 5 April 2004] - The Linux market has grown tremendously as a result of support from Hewlett-Packard, IBM and Oracle, resulting in predictions that it will soon replace other operating systems, particularly Unix.

However, despite the fact that Linux is becoming more pervasive and has begun to move into the mainstream, particularly with the advent of blade servers to which Linux is well suited, the International Data Corporation (IDC) forecasts that Linux will not come near to replacing the Unix and Windows operating systems in the next three to four years.

"Unix accounts for around 40% of server spending and has varied little from that level,” says Martin Hingley, IDC European VP. “There may be a slight decline in the Unix server market share in the coming years, but Unix will not go away and will not be replaced by Linux in the foreseeable future because the fact remains that Linux cannot yet scale as high as Unix.”

“Linux is the new thing, accounting for only 6% of the European market by the end of last year. Linux is expected to reach around 17% by the end of 2008, which means Linux will not have replaced other platform types and servers in that time, but will be playing an important complementary role, where appropriate.”

This conservative forecast for Linux is based on several factors, explained Hingley, including a shortage of open source partners for relevant applications, a lack of industry respect for the Linux development community, and the need for a more appropriate business model where there is no fear of vendor lock-in or obsolescence.

...
19 posted on 04/05/2004 5:36:58 PM PDT by Golden Eagle
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To: Bush2000
So IBM has finally agreed to indemnify users?

No need, Bubba. Like I said, SCO only eats its own young.

20 posted on 04/05/2004 7:24:04 PM PDT by TechJunkYard
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