[Joe Hadenuf]

again, stop believeing our own hype. we really could care less if Iraq becomes a Jeffersonian democracy

That's not what President Bush said. I keep hearing we are there to give Iraqis a chance at democracy.

I find this laughable.

we needed to depose a regime that was a friend to terrorism, we need bases in that area of the world

You think you are going to kill the millions over there that hate us?

Bases?

[oceanview]

yes, military bases, airfields. we are pulling out of the ones in suadi arabia.