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Washington Times ^

Posted on 04/04/2004 9:33:05 AM PDT by tallhappy

Edited on 07/12/2004 4:14:24 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

The country is in an uproar over former White House terrorism expert Richard Clarke's recent contentions, which will continue to be debated.

Let me give some insight on my own very recent (February 2004) experience with Mr. Clarke, who teaches a class at the John F. Kennedy School of Government. He teaches this class with Rand Beers, a former government official with National Security Council experience who now works on the Democratic presidential campaign.


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TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: bushknew; ccrm; clarke; cyberterror; dnc; hack; randbeers; richardclarke
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1 posted on 04/04/2004 9:33:05 AM PDT by tallhappy
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To: tallhappy; CalKat
Interesting inside view of the professor at work.
2 posted on 04/04/2004 9:36:15 AM PDT by MEG33 (John Kerry's been AWOL for two decades on issues of National Security!)
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3 posted on 04/04/2004 9:36:35 AM PDT by Support Free Republic (If Woody had gone straight to the police, this would never have happened!)
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To: tallhappy
Clarke is just peddling his book, wating fame even if it means being exposed as a liar.
4 posted on 04/04/2004 9:37:28 AM PDT by Dante3
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To: tallhappy; <1/1,000,000th%; 11B3; 2111USMC; 2Jedismom; 68-69TonkinGulfYatchClub; ...
Impt. ping on Clarke and his lack of believability.


5 posted on 04/04/2004 9:41:29 AM PDT by Diogenesis (If you mess with one of us, you mess with all of us)
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To: MEG33
Apparently Mr. Clarke was only "spinning" while in the classroom. Before the Commission, however, I'm sure he told the God Honest Truth.

Not.

6 posted on 04/04/2004 9:41:32 AM PDT by billorites (freepo ergo sum)
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To: tallhappy
I'm not so sure the country's in an uproar. The media and their Liberal kin might be. The rest of us can see through this phony bastard.
7 posted on 04/04/2004 9:44:23 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: Timesink; *CCRM; governsleastgovernsbest; martin_fierro; reformed_democrat; Loyalist; ...
Media Shenanigans ping - CBS Becomes Mired Ever Deeper In The Swamp Of Dickie Clarke's Money-Making Lies

On, Off, or grab it for a Media Shenanigans/Schadenfreude ping:
http://www.freerepublic.com/~anamusedspectator/

8 posted on 04/04/2004 9:44:44 AM PDT by an amused spectator (FR: Leaving the burning dog poop bag of Truth on the front door step of the liberal media since 1996)
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To: tallhappy
The bottom line is Mr. Clarke obfuscated the truth in my presence for some unknown reason.

In the fullness of time the reasons for Clarke's suspect veracity will become known. The one truth that is evident, is that he is not motivated by patriotism.

10 posted on 04/04/2004 9:48:57 AM PDT by elbucko
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To: Dante3
Clarke is peddling a lot more manure than books. Some would say the book is manure too, but Clarke keeps insisting it'snot.
11 posted on 04/04/2004 9:49:10 AM PDT by F.J. Mitchell (Like Freedom, Freerepublic isn't free, but to monthly donors it almost seems to be. Try it and see.)
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To: tallhappy
Proves once again that Clarke lies when no advantage is gained from lying.

When challenged and proved wrong he is unable to say he is wrong. Congenital comes to mind.
12 posted on 04/04/2004 9:54:13 AM PDT by leadpenny
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To: tallhappy
Another confirmation of the veracity of Richard Clarke. Think I will make some copies; make a trip to B&N; Chapter 11. . .and unobtrusively, insert them in his book; along wih some of his now, better known and original, observations of the Clinton Terror program.
13 posted on 04/04/2004 10:10:36 AM PDT by cricket (The Democrats and the terrorists have a common enemy. . .)
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To: tallhappy
Similar to saying it was "the military" that made a unilateral decision to pull out of Somalia, Clarke stated on Hardball when asked about the predator video footage showing bin Laden that it was "the CIA" that made the decision not to strike.

He even characterized it as "President Clinton was 100% not responsible for not going after him, it was the CIA".

Also, Clarke states in his book that one of the '93 WTC bombers was from Iraq and when he returned there after the attack he was jailed. Laurie Myrlroie and Richard Miniter have both pointed out this is an incredible "error". In fact,they both say, this bomber was given a house and a monthly stipend.

As time goes on Clarke's misrepresentations and perhaps outright lies (as opposed to innocent errors, which I doubt) have exposed a man with little to no credibility, that conversely the corrupt democrats and liberals in the media have embraced as one with "indisputable credibility". Once again with them down is up and up is down.

14 posted on 04/04/2004 10:12:34 AM PDT by cyncooper ("The 'War on Terror ' is not a figure of speech")
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To: leadpenny
When challenged and proved wrong he is unable to say he is wrong. Congenital comes to mind.

"Corrupt" comes to my mind.

15 posted on 04/04/2004 10:13:57 AM PDT by cyncooper ("The 'War on Terror ' is not a figure of speech")
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To: Flubber
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16 posted on 04/04/2004 10:18:44 AM PDT by Dave_in_Upland (this is hugh, in a reel series weigh)
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To: elbucko
Do you know something we don't know? Hint?
17 posted on 04/04/2004 10:27:08 AM PDT by cajungirl (<i>swing low, sweet limousine, comin' fer to Kerry me hoooommmee</i>)
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To: leadpenny
Proves once again that Clarke lies when no advantage is gained from lying

The advantage derived is Clinton's. "The Military" ordered the withdrawal- surely BC did not do the dêd.

18 posted on 04/04/2004 10:28:11 AM PDT by arthurus (fighting them OVER THERE is better than fighting them OVER HERE)
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To: arthurus
I don't care what Clarke said. If, in fact, Les Aspin withdrew the military from Somalia without the consent or orders from the President, Clinton has more problems with his legacy than I could have imagined.
19 posted on 04/04/2004 10:36:18 AM PDT by leadpenny
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To: tallhappy
Because he purposely misled the class into believing the U.S. military,
not the administration controlling the military,
made the decision to leave Somalia at a critical time in the mission. When given a chance
to correct the record, he chose not to do so.


My speculation(s)?
1. Clarke is probably now preparing the msp for his next book about "a silent coup"
in which the US Military mission in Somalia was actually a rouge operation that
the victimized Clinton administration had no control over...
2. And as usual, Clarke will apologize to the family/friends of the US military
killed in the "Blackhawk Down" incident.
AND
3. He's hoping to muddy the waters so people don't take more note of his
role in assisting the genocide of 800,000 people in Rwanda (he did NOT agree to
be intereviewed for the PBS FrontLine special that aired this last week; Maddy Albright
said Clarke told her to basically do nothing in Rwanda).
20 posted on 04/04/2004 10:50:09 AM PDT by VOA
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