[iconoclast]

We have groups of hyphenated Americans who prefer not to be plain Americans. They want their own cultures to predominate.

Yes, but the Pat-bashers are blind to history and lack even common sense. You could say "Pat" Boone in their presence and they would go off in the tirade that automatically follows their knee-jerk reaction to the letters P-a-t.

They've been totally conditioned to this response by the same people that hijacked their party.

[cyborg]

Blind to history? Where are you from? My father's family emigrated over here from Italy and the establishment of the day said the same thing about Italians to the point of discrimination that many black people had better living conditions. So some of us 'Pat bashers' are not coming from a knee jerk reaction. Whatever.

[A Jovial Cad]

Isn't that the truth? I don't always agree with Pat either, but he does often have some valid points worth considering. Look at poor Cyborg froth at the mouth, I'm suprised he can see his monitor for all the spittle that must be dripping off of it. People seem to get hyper-irrational at the very mention of the man's *name,* without ever considering his arguments.