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The killing and desecration of the four Blackwater operators in Fallujah knocked this story off a lot of front pages.

I post on a lot of threads decrying the shortage of Up Armored Humvees and calling President Bush everything but a child of God because soldiers have to ride in unarmored vehicles. Some go so far as to blame not the enemy but the CINC and the SECDEF for any deaths as a result of IEDs exploded on standard or improvised armored humvees.

These guys were in an armored vehicle.

The enemy has a mission, too. Every once in a while they succeed in accomplishing it. I don't think their rare successes necessarily prove incompetence, negligence or malfeasence on the part of our Army's leadership.

1 posted on 04/03/2004 4:44:53 AM PST by Cannoneer No. 4
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To: Cannoneer No. 4
Bless these men, their families and all of us who understand what is really at stake.
2 posted on 04/03/2004 4:54:36 AM PST by facedown (Armed in the Heartland)
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To: Cannoneer No. 4; SandRat; MJY1288; xzins; Calpernia; TEXOKIE; Alamo-Girl; windchime; Grampa Dave; ..
Soldier, new father killed in Iraq

4/2/2004 11:36 AM
By: Associated Press

CHARLOTTE, N.C. -- Leslie Hufstedler was waiting for her husband to return to Charlotte, N.C., so he could see their baby.

Doyle Hufstedler was trying to arrange a 15-day leave so he could come home from Iraq and hold the baby. He never got the chance.

Doyle Hufstedler was assigned to the 1st Engineer Battalion based at Fort Riley, Kan. The 25-year-old native of Abilene was among five soldiers who died Wednesday when a bomb detonated under their M-113 in Malahma, Iraq.

Leslie and Doyle Hufstedler met at Texas A&M University three years ago while they picked up class rings. He proposed to her in the end zone at halftime of a football game and joined the Army as a 2nd lieutenant.

The Hufstedlers celebrated their first wedding anniversary in August. A few days later, they learned Leslie was pregnant. In less than a week, Doyle Hufstedler headed to Iraq.

Military officers notified Leslie Hufstedler on Wednesday afternoon at her parents' home.

http://www.news8austin.com/content/headlines/?ArID=102651&SecID=2

Sgt. Mark Davey kisses his son, Jake, while his wife Jill watches Friday morning at Fort Riley. Davey, along with 600 other soldiers, returned to Fort Riley after a yearlong deployment in Iraq.
Travis Heying/The Wichita Eagle
Sgt. Mark Davey kisses his son, Jake, while his wife Jill watches Friday morning at Fort Riley. Davey, along with 600 other soldiers, returned to Fort Riley after a yearlong deployment in Iraq.

Gathering welcomes wave of Fort Riley soldiers back from Iraq

More than 1,300 relatives and friends gathered at a hangar at Fort Riley this morning to welcome back a wave of soldiers returning from assignments in Iraq.

They cheered and welcomed 640 soldiers from the 1st Battalion, 13th Armor and the 300th Military Police Company from this Army post.

"A lot of guys weren't as fortunate as me," said Staff Sgt. Ron Bowie II, after kissing and holding his wife Patricia in a long-awaited embrace.

His mission had him in Iraq for 363 days, Patricia said.

On Friday, the Defense Department identified five soldiers from Fort Riley who died Wednesday in Iraq when a bomb detonated under their M-113 in Malahma, an area in the Sunni Triangle. It was the deadliest day for Fort Riley, which has lost 35 soldiers since the war began, nearly double the number of deaths during the Persian Gulf War.

The soldiers were identified as 1st Lt. Doyle M. Hufstedler, 25, of Abilene, Texas; Spc. Sean R. Mitchell, 24, of Youngsville, Pa.; Spc. Michael G. Karr Jr., 23, of San Antonio, Texas; Pfc. Cleston C. Raney, 20, of Rupert, Idaho; and Pvt. Brandon L. Davis, 20, of Cumberland, Md.

In the coming week, an estimated 1,000 more soldiers will return from duty in Iraq to the Fort Riley post near Junction City.

"You come back having done a wonderful job, not only for Americans but for all the civilized world," Maj. Gen. Dennis Hardy, commanding general at Fort Riley, told troops Friday morning.

 
http://www.kansas.com/mld/kansas/8340258.htm
 


3 posted on 04/03/2004 6:42:06 AM PST by Ragtime Cowgirl (Just $5/mo:THWART ENEMIES*SUPPORT OUR TROOPS!*http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1109539/posts)
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8 posted on 04/03/2004 7:25:29 AM PST by Cannoneer No. 4 (Some have elected to resist. Having made their decision, they are being engaged and destroyed.)
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To: Cannoneer No. 4
The killing and desecration of the four Blackwater operators in Fallujah knocked
this story off a lot of front pages.


Agreed -- but not for long in this forum.

Although I haven't fact-checked it, another number that shouldn't leave our
minds is the 600 (or more?) Iraqis who paid their last full measure of devotion
to their country trying to help make Iraq into a cilivized, united country.

(I can't remember which radio show I heard that one on...maybe the Laura Ingraham Show.)
9 posted on 04/03/2004 12:39:04 PM PST by VOA
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To: Cannoneer No. 4
Bump; 'n thanks.
20 posted on 04/03/2004 4:27:28 PM PST by First_Salute (May God save our democratic-republican government, from a government by judiciary.)
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34 posted on 04/04/2004 7:29:36 AM PDT by Cannoneer No. 4 (Some have elected to resist. Having made their decision, they are being engaged and destroyed.)
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To: Cannoneer No. 4
This page here http://www.uniteddefense.com/www.m113.com/ifvlcharac.html clearly states that there are armor upgrading packages that add addititional mine protection to the M113. This armor has been available for decades but the US Army has never bought any. Just like the pictures of the Rhodesian and South African vehicles from the 1960's and 1970's designed for mine protection that Archy has posted. The stuff has been available but the Army has failed to see the need to buy or develop any. I find your love of the humvee disturbing.
37 posted on 04/04/2004 8:26:52 AM PDT by Tailback
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To: Cannoneer No. 4

44 posted on 04/12/2004 1:40:31 PM PDT by bmwcyle (<a href="http://www.johnkerry.com/" target="_blank">miserable failure)
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