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To: balrog666
Virus from chemicals? Leaving aside the fact that intelligent humans contrived to make this happen in a lab (swing and a miss for your point)

Here ya go sparky: http://www.scienceagainstevolution.org/v6i10n.htm

Snowflakes are a lower energy form of water, not a higher energy form. They are moving toward equilibrium, not away from it. Ditto for crystals. Hurricanes? They are by definition low-pressure cells. They are chasing equilbrium as well. To say that Hurricanes 'form' is like saying the sun rises. Hurricanes are where heat and energy 'go'. They are not a net increase in energy. It is merely a perspective. Hurricanes lose heat and dissipate energy.

As to the last response. To quote Isaac Asimove (no Creationist there!) "we can see the Second Law all about us. We have to work hard to straighten a room, but left to itself it becomes a mess again very quickly and very easily. Even if we never enter it, it becomes dusty and musty. How difficult to maintain houses, and machinery, and our own bodies in perfect working order; how easy to let them deteriorate. In fact, all we have to do is nothing, and everything deteriorates, collapses, breaks down, wears out, all by itself and that is what the Second Law is all about."

229 posted on 04/03/2004 2:10:45 PM PST by keithtoo (W '04 - I'll pass on the ketchup-boy.)
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To: keithtoo
Snowflakes are a lower energy form of water, not a higher energy form.

That being the case, does 1 gram of snowflakes at zero Celsius have more or less entropy than the 1 gram of liquid water at the same temperature?

236 posted on 04/03/2004 2:27:19 PM PST by longshadow
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To: keithtoo
Virus from chemicals?

Yep. Life from non-life.

Leaving aside the fact that intelligent humans contrived to make this happen in a lab

No sh!t, sherlock. No points for you.

(swing and a miss for your point)

Nope. The point was "living from non-living". You lose, again.

Here ya go sparky: http://www.scienceagainstevolution.org/v6i10n.htm

They are misnamed. They should be called IdiotsAgainstScience. No points again.

Snowflakes are a lower energy form of water, not a higher energy form. They are moving toward equilibrium, not away from it.

Buzz, wrong. The point was "order from disorder", not energy levels. You lose again.

Ditto for crystals.

Buzz, wrong. The point was "order from disorder", not energy levels. You lose again.

Hurricanes? They are by definition low-pressure cells. They are chasing equilbrium as well.

Buzz, wrong. The point was "order from disorder", not energy levels or "chasing equilibrium". You lose again.

To say that Hurricanes 'form' is like saying the sun rises. Hurricanes are where heat and energy 'go'. They are not a net increase in energy. It is merely a perspective. Hurricanes lose heat and dissipate energy.

Buzz, non-sequitur. You lose again.

Gee, that makes you about 0 for 10. Double "F"


No soup for you!

241 posted on 04/03/2004 2:57:46 PM PST by balrog666 (A public service post.)
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