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Secret bunkers held chemical weapons, says Iraqi exile
THE AGE ^ | April 1, 2004 | Russell Skelton.

Posted on 04/01/2004 7:00:49 PM PST by RaceBannon

Secret bunkers held chemical weapons, says Iraqi exile April 1, 2004

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A scientist describes Saddam's weapons and stealth technology programs, reports Russell Skelton.

For seven years, before he was tortured and sentenced to death, Rashid (not his real name) worked at the top of Iraq's scientific establishment. He says he regularly met Saddam Hussein and his cousin and strongman deputy prime minister Abdul Tawab Huweish. After the Gulf War he was put in charge of a taskforce code named "Al Babel" to develop stealth technology to make aircraft and missiles undetectable on radar.

Rashid, who now lives in Melbourne, also claims to have had access as a trusted insider to secret underground bunkers where chemical weapons were stored. "Saddam gave me access to everything, he was so desperate to perfect the stealth technology," he says.

Now Rashid's great fear is that Saddam loyalists still active in postwar Iraq may get to the chemicals and weapons he saw hidden away before fleeing for his life.

"If those weapons still exist, the worry is that they will be used against the Iraqi people, the US forces or even sold off to al-Qaeda. Maybe those weapons no longer exist, but I find it hard to believe they could disappear so easily," he says.

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Rashid's days of working at the top came to an abrupt end in 1998 when he was arrested with a group of other scientists and army officers on charges of plotting to remove Saddam. He was taken to a high-security jail in the centre of Baghdad, run by the Mukhabarat (secret police), where he was tortured for three weeks, suffering severe spinal injuries.

Rashid was then transferred to the Abu Ghraib jail outside Baghdad for execution. "Each morning prisoners were executed. Some were shot and some were hung. I could see the executions from my cell window. You lived in a constant state of terror because you never knew who was next."

Rashid says he escaped when a high-ranking military officer and close friend bribed the guards to swap his file with that of an executed prisoner. "On visiting day I just walked out. Everything had been arranged; I had false travel documents that got me and my family across the border to Syria," he says.

Rashid's problems did not end there. The Iraqi secret police came looking for him at Damascus University where he taught physics part time, and he fled to Melbourne on an Emirates flight. He says he left his wife and family behind because the family had money to buy only a single ticket and at that stage he was the one whose life was in immediate danger.

Rashid has told The Age he knows of five secret storage bunkers around Baghdad, Basra and Tikrit, three of which he visited regularly as a top scientist and senior employee of Iraq's now defunct Atomic Energy Commission.

One, he says, was under an island in the Tigris River near Saddam University. Another was beneath the house of one of Saddam's cousins, and reached by a tunnel with a hidden entrance 800 metres away.

He described the bunkers as being built 15 metres underground, of reinforced concrete, and multi-storeyed. "Between these layers, pipes would rise up, through the building above to provide access for ventilation.

"The lethal chemicals were stored in drums and the bunkers were air-conditioned. But there were also artillery shells and 122-millimetre rockets armed with chemicals."

He says the sites had been built using foreign construction companies, including a company from China, and that nobody was allowed to approach without authorisation and extensive ID checks by the Special Republican Guard.

Rashid says meeting Saddam was always a bizarre experience. "Suddenly his people would appear unannounced. They would take you to a location and examine you carefully: mouth, hands, eyes and ears. Then you would be taken to another place and checked again. This could happen up to three times. Finally he would come into the room."

Rashid says Saddam was moody but was always on top of what was discussed, and read all scientific reports sent to him. "Nothing ever happened unless he approved it. That included the purchase of special equipment, sending people overseas to be trained. If you told him a project would take six months to complete, he would want it in four months."

After arriving in Australia, Rashid was issued with a temporary protection visa.

Even though Rashid's wife and four children have been processed and found to be refugees by the UNHCR in Syria, they remain stranded there. Australia's immigration laws prevent TPV holders access to family reunion and they have not been issued with a visa.

Although Rashid is known to authorities in Australia, he asked that his real name not be published, to protect him and his family from Saddam loyalists still active in Iraqi communities in and outside Australia.

"It's still too dangerous for us to speak out; I don't know who to trust. There are former army officers living in Australia who were close to Saddam," he says.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: abughraib; anthrax; chemical; chemicalweapons; china; iraq; iraqiexiles; shells; terror; torture; warfare; wmd
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WMD again
1 posted on 04/01/2004 7:00:51 PM PST by RaceBannon
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To: RaceBannon; kdf1; AMERIKA; Lancey Howard; MudPuppy; SMEDLEYBUTLER; opbuzz; Snow Bunny; ...
must read, smoking gun at last?
2 posted on 04/01/2004 7:02:18 PM PST by RaceBannon (VOTE DEMOCRAT AND LEARN ARABIC FREE!!)
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3 posted on 04/01/2004 7:02:50 PM PST by Support Free Republic (Hi Mom! Hi Dad!)
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To: RaceBannon
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4 posted on 04/01/2004 7:03:05 PM PST by Dubya (Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father,but by me)
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To: Dubya
Another clue in the puzzle.
5 posted on 04/01/2004 7:04:55 PM PST by Ciexyz
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To: RaceBannon
Then the man said "April fools"
6 posted on 04/01/2004 7:06:18 PM PST by GeronL (Hey, I am on the internet. I have a right (cough, cough) to write stupid things.)
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To: RaceBannon
yeah, so where are these facilities? in fact, we heard all these stories of underground bunkers all over the country, I've yet to see a story that shows the US military picking apart one of these complexes. Tikrit was rumored to have an "underground city" of bunkers, where is it?
7 posted on 04/01/2004 7:06:32 PM PST by oceanview
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To: Dubya
I just don't know what to think here.
8 posted on 04/01/2004 7:06:40 PM PST by Zack Nguyen
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To: Zack Nguyen
we can only hope
9 posted on 04/01/2004 7:07:22 PM PST by RaceBannon (VOTE DEMOCRAT AND LEARN ARABIC FREE!!)
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To: RaceBannon
Thanks very much for this very interesting read. Dare we hope that this info would be forwarded to the Australians and Americans with the Survey Group in Iraq? I sure hope so.Anybody got any guesses? Thanks.
10 posted on 04/01/2004 7:08:15 PM PST by Lady In Blue (President Bush on terrorists: "I'm tired of swatting at flies!")
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To: Ciexyz
Only if he can lead us to the bunkers. If anything was in them the traces would still be there. Hopefully everything is either still there or destroyed and not in the hands of the terrorists. Parley
11 posted on 04/01/2004 7:09:07 PM PST by Parley Baer
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To: Big Steve; deport; blackie; nickcarraway
WMD ping!
12 posted on 04/01/2004 7:09:46 PM PST by Lady In Blue (President Bush on terrorists: "I'm tired of swatting at flies!")
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To: RaceBannon
Just wondewring what tghey are getting from Saddam's interogation

That just about dropped off the radar altogether

Me thinks Bush has a surprise in store for all the critics
13 posted on 04/01/2004 7:11:57 PM PST by uncbob
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To: RaceBannon
smoking gun at last

I would like to think so but I have become very cynical about WMD stories. If this guy's story is true then all he has to do is sit down, draw the maps showing the locations of the bunkers and push them out to the Internet. This isn't rocket science. You don't need to play games. Just describe the exact locations and let people go look for the stuff. Instead we get these insider stories that sound good but don't seem to ever work out. I want the real thing.

15 posted on 04/01/2004 7:12:43 PM PST by InterceptPoint
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To: oceanview
I think we might see the WMD bunkers around September 20th.
16 posted on 04/01/2004 7:13:44 PM PST by JOE6PAK ("The difference between stupidity and genius is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein)
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To: RaceBannon
Rashid says meeting Saddam was always a bizarre experience. "Suddenly his people would appear unannounced. They would take you to a location and examine you carefully: mouth, hands, eyes and ears. Then you would be taken to another place and checked again. This could happen up to three times. Finally he would come into the room."

I wonder if Saddam treated Dan Rather this way. (I'm sure cbs would report that kind of treatment...right cnn?). And if Saddam didn't take those precautions with Rather, and cbs, it makes one wonder which side is Viacom on? CNN, Mr. Jordan, are you listening? Otherwise, your and the rest of the alphabet soup's ratings (and ad revenue) will continue to go south.

8^)

5.56mm

17 posted on 04/01/2004 7:14:24 PM PST by M Kehoe
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To: JackRyanCIA; RaceBannon
FReeper monkeywrench wondered if they might be underneath Fallujah.
18 posted on 04/01/2004 7:22:55 PM PST by txhurl
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To: uncbob
Even though this man himself probably would be a bit difficult to track down since his name is not mentioned, he did give enough info that surely our military could check the sattellites out and find an island near Saddam U. I can't imagine there being that many possibilities.
19 posted on 04/01/2004 7:22:57 PM PST by rwfromkansas ("Am I not destroying my enemies when I make friends of them?" -- Abraham Lincoln)
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