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Court Tells U.S. to Review Mexican Death Row Cases
FindLaw.com ^ | March 31, 2004 | Paul Gallagher

Posted on 03/31/2004 12:31:00 PM PST by kennedy

THE HAGUE, Netherlands (Reuters) - The World Court on Wednesday ordered the United States to review the cases of 51 Mexicans on death row because it had failed to inform them of their right to talk to consular officials shortly after their arrests. The Mexicans, on death row in more than half a dozen states including California, Texas and Oklahoma, should have their convictions and sentences reviewed by U.S. courts because their rights had been breached, the U.N.'s top court ruled.

Mexico brought a case at the International Court of Justice, also known as the World Court, last year in which it said its neighbor breached the rights of the Mexican prisoners under the Vienna Convention on Consular Relations.

The U.S. ambassador to the Netherlands, Clifford Sobel, said the United States would review the court's decision.

"It is not Mexico which has been vindicated. What has been vindicated is the rule of international law," said Juan Manuel Gomez Robledo, one of Mexico's representatives.

The condemned Mexicans should be able to seek retrials or sentence reviews as a result of the Hague-based court ruling, Mexico's legal representatives said.

Speaking at a news conference in Mexico City, Foreign Ministry legal advisor Arturo Dager said the government had "every confidence that the United States will do everything possible to comply with this ruling."

Dager added Mexico would seek a stay of execution for Mexicans on death row in the United States, three of whom have exhausted the appeals process.

"We are not, in principle, seeking retrials, but a revision and reconsideration of the cases," he said.

CONSULAR ACCESS IS A RIGHT

The execution of Mexicans in the United States has been a bone of contention between the two countries.

Mexican President Vicente Fox angrily canceled a planned meeting in 2002 in Texas with President Bush after the state executed a Mexican.

"Review and reconsideration should be both of the sentence and conviction," the court said. Its ruling is not subject to appeal.

Human Rights Watch welcomed the ruling.

"Today's decision could make the difference between life and death for foreigners prosecuted in the United States. Access to consular officials is not a mere legal technicality, it is the gateway to a fair trial and the surest way to prevent miscarriages of justice," the group said.

Mexico complained to Bush earlier this month about Oklahoma's plans to execute Mexican Osvaldo Torres, convicted of a double murder in 1993, on May 18 despite a ruling by the court calling for a stay of execution.

Last year, the court ordered the United States to stay the executions of Torres and two other Mexicans deemed in imminent danger and reserved the right to intervene in dozens more cases.

In 2001, the court faulted the United States for violating the international rights of two German-born brothers executed in 1999 and ordered Washington to reconsider convictions in any similar cases. Walter and Karl LaGrand had been found guilty of killing a bank manager in a bungled 1982 robbery.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: aliens; execution; thehague; worldcourt
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In other news, the Republic of Texas Court ordered the United States to stop trying to collect income tax from citizens of the Republic of Texas.
1 posted on 03/31/2004 12:31:01 PM PST by kennedy
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To: kennedy
The World Court on Wednesday ordered the United States to review the cases of 51 Mexicans on death row.

Our reply should be:

"US Executes 51 Mexicans, Ship Remains to World Court at The Hague"

2 posted on 03/31/2004 12:33:44 PM PST by theDentist (JOHN KERRY never saw a TAX he would not HIKE !)
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To: kennedy
The World Court on Wednesday ordered the United States

This is where I stopped reading.

Now, you boys sitting on the world court, do you feel froggy? You do? Why dont you just come on over hear and MAKE US!
3 posted on 03/31/2004 12:34:25 PM PST by Iron Matron (Civil Disobedience? It's not just for liberals anymore!)
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To: kennedy
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1108509/posts?page=105#105

Hit on this earlier.
4 posted on 03/31/2004 12:34:58 PM PST by the OlLine Rebel (Common Sense is an Uncommon Virtue)
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To: kennedy
The World Court on Wednesday ordered the United States...

To the World Court:  I fart in your general direction.

5 posted on 03/31/2004 12:39:50 PM PST by holymoly (Stinking typos.)
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To: kennedy
We got a rule here in TEXAS. You kill us and we'll kill you back. Dont matter what flavor you are. You wanna bow up on us Hague? Bring it.
6 posted on 03/31/2004 12:46:46 PM PST by MAWG
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To: kennedy
What's the World Court going to do to make us comply? Join the Kerry army, give themselves three purple hearts, throw their medals over a fence and then surrender?
7 posted on 03/31/2004 12:57:47 PM PST by sergeantdave (Gen. Custer wore an Arrowsmith shirt to his last property owner convention.)
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To: kennedy
Yeah...this poor little serial murderer guy deserves another chance.


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8 posted on 03/31/2004 12:59:15 PM PST by South40 (Amnesty for ILLEGALS is a slap in the face to the USBP!)
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To: South40
Why prosecute them? Give them the US citizenship they so richly deserve and free health care and tuition for the kiddies. /sarcasm
9 posted on 03/31/2004 1:05:46 PM PST by ysoitanly
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To: kennedy
The execution of Mexicans in the United States has been a bone of contention between the two countries.

Well, gee...if that narco-terrorist, Vicente Fox, didn't ENCOURAGE the dregs of country to come here, this wouldn't be an issue, now would it? Fox is emptying his unemployment lines and slums right into our laps and our elected officials could care less what we think. The dems want the votes and the repubicans want the cheap labor with the average, middle-class American citizen caught in the cross-fire. We need to vote every single elected official who has voted in any way to continue allowing our 'open borders' right out of office no matter which 'party' they are in. Period.

10 posted on 03/31/2004 1:06:16 PM PST by KentuckyWoman
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To: KentuckyWoman
Well, gee...if that narco-terrorist, Vicente Fox, didn't ENCOURAGE the dregs of country to come here, this wouldn't be an issue, now would it?

Perhaps life on death row in America is better than freedom in Mexico.

11 posted on 03/31/2004 1:09:36 PM PST by South40 (Amnesty for ILLEGALS is a slap in the face to the USBP!)
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To: kennedy
The following is dated 2/18/2003 so it may not be totally correct......

Texas data

Citizenship of Offenders on Death Row

(Any death row offender not listed here is an American Citizen)

TDCJ Number Photo Last Name First Name Date Received County Nationality
999203 Offender Information Saldano Victor 09/12/1996 Collin Argentina
999122 Offender Information Blair Michael 10/18/1994 Midland Bangkok, Thailand
942 Offender Information Rousseau Anibal 07/11/1989 Harris Cuba
910 Offender Information Rabbani Syed 07/25/1988 Harris Dhaka, Bangladesh
999390 Offender Information Guevara Gilmar 06/26/2001 Harris El Salvador
999240 Offender Information Ayestas Carlos 09/17/1997 Harris Honduras
999437 Offender Information Heliberto Chi 11/21/2002 Tarrant Honduras
999030 Offender Information Lim Kim 06/22/1992 Harris Kampuchea
999162 Offender Information Leal Humberto 09/01/1995 Bexar Mexican National
985 Offender Information Garcia Hector 10/19/1990 Hidalgo Mexican National
999062 Offender Information Ramos Robert 05/06/1993 Hidalgo Mexican National
999096 Offender Information Soriano Oswaldo 05/06/1994 Randall Mexican National
999130 Offender Information Tamayo Edgar 11/18/1994 Harris Mexican National
650 Offender Information Fierro Cesar 02/26/1980 El Paso Mexican National
999214 Offender Information Plata Daniel 12/11/1996 Harris Mexican National
999247 Offender Information Ibarra Ramiro 12/10/1997 McLennan Mexican National
999249 Offender Information Maldonado Virgilio 12/18/1997 Harris Mexican National
999275 Offender Information Cardenas Ruben 07/29/1998 Hidalgo Mexican National
999290 Offender Information Gomez Ignacio 12/10/1998 El Paso Mexican National
999291 Offender Information Rocha Felix 12/16/1998 Harris Mexican National
999332 Offender Information Alvarez Juan 11/17/1999 Harris Mexican National
999342 Offender Information Hernandez Ramiro 02/11/2000 Bandera Mexican National
999356 Offender Information Resendiz Angel 05/24/2000 Harris Mexican National
999134 Offender Information Medellin Jose 01/06/1995 Harris Mexican National
999369 Offender Information Tercero Bernardo 12/13/2000 Harris Nicaragua
999406 Offender Information Carty Linda 03/07/2002 Harris Saint Kitts

Last Updated:  02/18/2003

12 posted on 03/31/2004 1:20:32 PM PST by deport (("These guys are the most crooked, you know, lying group I have ever seen. It's scary," Kerry said.)
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To: South40
More probably they simply never thought they would get caught and just run back across the border like so many other felons seem to do. Almost 90% of the outstanding felony warrants in California are for ILLEGALS who authorities believe has simply (temporarily) returned to Mexico to avoid prosecution.
13 posted on 03/31/2004 1:20:39 PM PST by KentuckyWoman
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To: KentuckyWoman
It sounds as though you've already seen this.

If not, it's quite informative, as it exposes quite clearly the falsehood that they are coming here to do jobs Americans don't want.

14 posted on 03/31/2004 1:24:46 PM PST by South40 (Amnesty for ILLEGALS is a slap in the face to the USBP!)
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To: South40
Yes, I've seen that article. In fact, I have it posted on our immigration reform web site.
15 posted on 03/31/2004 1:30:03 PM PST by KentuckyWoman
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To: kennedy
We should send them a satellite picture with precise GPS coordinates of their "courthouse". And say nothing at all.
16 posted on 03/31/2004 2:18:28 PM PST by thoughtomator (Voting Bush because there is no reasonable alternative)
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To: thoughtomator
I like it. I like it a lot.
17 posted on 03/31/2004 2:53:10 PM PST by MAWG
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To: kennedy
DAMN, if it were only true!
18 posted on 03/31/2004 2:56:32 PM PST by MAWG
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To: kennedy
Did we lose our soveriegnty & no one told me?
The World Court gets to tell the United States what to do?

Screw the Un, Screw the World Court & Screw Mexico!!!


19 posted on 03/31/2004 3:03:05 PM PST by Feiny (Never has so much genius been combined with so little talent.)
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To: kennedy
The World Court on Wednesday ordered the United States...

And we should give them the time of day because... ???

20 posted on 03/31/2004 5:03:35 PM PST by NCjim
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