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Court Opens Door To Searches Without Warrants WAKE UP PEOPLE
TheNewOrleansChannel.com. ^ | March 29, 2004

Posted on 03/29/2004 11:59:09 PM PST by Cheetah1

Court Opens Door To Searches Without Warrants

UPDATED: 4:27 PM CST March 29, 2004

NEW ORLEANS -- It's a groundbreaking court decision that legal experts say will affect everyone: Police officers in Louisiana no longer need a search or arrest warrant to conduct a brief search of your home or business.

Leaders in law enforcement say it will keep officers safe, but others argue it's a privilege that could be abused.

The decision in United States v. Kelly Gould, No. 0230629cr0, was made March 24 by the New Orleans-based 5th Circuit Court of Appeals.

The ruling stems from a lawsuit filed in Denham Springs in 2000, in which defendant Gould filed a motion to suppress information gleaned from a search of his home. The motion was granted by district court, and the government appealed this decision. The March 24 ruling by the 5th Circuit is an affirmation of that appeal.

Searches Without Warrants

In the case, the Livingston Parish Sheriff's Office was contacted on Oct. 17, 2000, by a Gould employee who told officers that Gould intended to kill two judges and unidentified police officers and to destroy telephone company transformers. The LPSO informed the East Baton Rouge Parish Sheriff's Office of the threats.

A search of Gould's criminal history revealed several arrests and that he was "a convicted felon for violent charges," according to the Facts and Proceedings section of the 5th Circuit ruling.

When officers went to question Gould, they were told he was asleep. The officers asked if they could look inside for Gould, and were allowed to enter.

The officers testified that that they believed a search of the home was necessary to ensure their safety, given the allegations by Gould's employee and Gould's criminal history, according to the Facts and Proceedings section of the 5th Circuit ruling.

Gould's bedroom door was ajar, and officers testified they peered inside and saw no one. Thinking Gould could be hiding, the officers looked in three closets. In one of the closets, the officers found three firearms, according to the Facts and Proceedings section of the 5th Circuit ruling.

Gould was found hiding outside the home a few minutes later. He was taken into custody and questioned about the guns. The officers asked for and received Gould's consent to search the home, with Gould signing a waiver of search warrant. Gould subsequently was arrested for allegedly being a felon in possession of firearms.

One judge, Judge Grady Jolly, said he concurred in part and dissented in part with the majority opinion. Judge Jerry Smith, however, completely disagreed with the majority ruling, saying: "I have no doubt that the deputy sheriffs believed that they were acting reasonably and with good intentions. But the old adage warns us that 'the road to hell is paved with good intentions.'"

New Orleans Police Department spokesman Capt. Marlon Defillo said the new search power, which is effective immediately, will be used judiciously.

"We have to have a legitimate problem to be there in the first place, and if we don't, we can't conduct the search," Defillo said.

But former U.S. Attorney Julian Murray said the ruling is problematic.

"I think it goes way too far," Murray said, noting that the searches can be performed if an officer fears for his safety.

Defillo said he doesn't envision any problems in New Orleans.

"There are checks and balances to make sure the criminal justice system works in an effective manner," Defillo said.


TOPICS: Front Page News
KEYWORDS: 4thamendment; billofrights; texas; wakeuppeople; yourpapersplease

1 posted on 03/29/2004 11:59:10 PM PST by Cheetah1
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To: Cheetah1
This doesn't seem as clear cut as the headline suggests. Didn't he admit he consented to the search, and didn't the person at the door let them in?
2 posted on 03/30/2004 12:03:30 AM PST by edeal
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To: edeal
He didn't.

Not until AFTER they had already gathered the evidence, the same evidence they used to threaten him into signing their permission slip.


3 posted on 03/30/2004 12:05:36 AM PST by Robert_Paulson2 (the madridification of our election is now officially underway.)
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To: Cheetah1
Wake Up America!!

**its 2AM!**

ok,ok, GO TO SLEEP AMERICA!

4 posted on 03/30/2004 12:06:33 AM PST by GeronL (www.armorforcongress.com..... put a FReeper in Congress)
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To: edeal
Didn't he admit he consented to the search, and didn't the person at the door let them in?

He consented to let the officers visit the person. That does not mean he consented to let the officers search the bedroom closets.

If officers were unwilling to enter the property without searching beyond the areas for which consent had been given, they should not have entered the property at all without a warrant.

5 posted on 03/30/2004 12:07:25 AM PST by supercat (Why is it that the more "gun safety" laws are passed, the less safe my guns seem?)
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To: Cheetah1
Nonsense.

The reporter from New Orleans who wrote this is a deep, deep idiot when it comes to the law.

The decision does not give the police the right to "search homes without warrants." That's completely wrong and totally misses the point of the 5th Circuit's very reasonable decision, which was a majority decision of 11 judges to 4. The SCOTUS has been taking a hardline approach to criminal procedure cases such as this lately, and they may even trim the ears off of this one.

Don't worry. This is nothing to worry about it. I say that as a civil rights near-absolutist. Just don't trust reporters from New Orleans.

The big problems are outsourcing and terrorism.

6 posted on 03/30/2004 12:08:41 AM PST by rogueleader
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To: rogueleader
I hope what you say is correct.
7 posted on 03/30/2004 12:13:19 AM PST by Cheetah1
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To: supercat
Yeah, I just mean it is not as clear cut as say breaking down the door after they told the officers to get lost.
8 posted on 03/30/2004 12:13:57 AM PST by edeal
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To: Cheetah1
US Constitution
Amendment IV
The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.
9 posted on 03/30/2004 12:14:28 AM PST by South40 (No amnesty for ILLEGALS!)
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To: Cheetah1
Are we gonna start hearing the old"Citizen, If you've done nothing wrong, What are you Hiding routine?

Freedom is rapidly being flushed down the toilet!

10 posted on 03/30/2004 12:20:17 AM PST by Cheapskate ("Citizens are not sheep to be shorn, or fields of corn to be harvested"Gary Aldrich)
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To: Cheetah1
The moral of this story: if they police don't have a warrant, and you invite them into your house...surprise...you've waived your Fourth Amendment rights. Like duh! What else is new?
11 posted on 03/30/2004 12:28:39 AM PST by Prime Choice (Hm? No, my powers can only be used for Good.)
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To: Prime Choice
Quote "One judge, Judge Grady Jolly, said he concurred in part and dissented in part with the majority opinion. Judge Jerry Smith, however, completely disagreed with the majority ruling, saying: "I have no doubt that the deputy sheriffs believed that they were acting reasonably and with good intentions. But the old adage warns us that 'the road to hell is paved with good intentions.'"


I like that quote
12 posted on 03/30/2004 12:45:18 AM PST by Cheetah1
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To: Cheetah1
...a Gould employee who told officers that Gould intended to kill two judges and unidentified police officers...

A search of Gould's criminal history revealed several arrests and that he was "a convicted felon for violent charges,"...

When officers went to question Gould, they were told he was asleep. The officers asked if they could look inside for Gould, and were allowed to enter.

Gould's bedroom door was ajar, and officers testified they peered inside and saw no one. Thinking Gould could be hiding, the officers looked in three closets.

The Constitution protects us from unreasonable search. It does not protect us from reasonable search, which is clearly what this was.

13 posted on 03/30/2004 1:13:20 AM PST by BykrBayb (I'm going to steal my next tagline from someone's post.)
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To: Cheetah1
. . . but others argue it's a privilege that could be abused . . .

NO!! Not could be abused, WILL be abused.

Wake up America is right!!! The liberal loading of the judiciary is coming to play all over this country - and we are the ultimate losers.

14 posted on 03/30/2004 1:32:37 AM PST by DustyMoment (Repeal CFR NOW!!)
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