Jewish defections irk Dems

The Hill ^ | March 30, 2004 | Alexander Bolton

[oceanview]

they are politically liberal, their parents were democrats, they feel insulated from those things you mention.

[solo gringo]

When Clinton was President he had Arafat at the W/H more than any other Foreign Leader.Ever time you looked up there was this little Opossum grinning like he was caught in the meat market.Dressed in army clothes hand-me-downs with a diaper around his head and his buddy clinton miking eyes at him a real love fest.All the Israelis have to do is check it out verses todays W/H.The Israeli's "Jews" will vote hands down for Bush because they like a fair deal as we all do.IMHO.

[Barnstormer]

Back in January, probably the most liberal Jewish Dem in recent history, Ed Koch (former NYC Mayor) said he was going to vote for Bush!! (He is still pretty influential in the Jewish community.)

Here's a link to the op-ed piece he wrote:

http://www.forward.com/issues/2004/04.01.09/oped1.html

Bush will never win the majority of the Jewish vote, but he is certainly improving the 2000 showing by all accounts. And, the big bucks contributions will add to the GOP war chast and deprive the DemoRats of the same big money.

[lizma]

MOT's

Members of the tribe????????

[Fee]

I think when Jewish Democrats see Black Democrats assail them poltically with racist anti-Semetic statements and the DNC say nothing because they are afraid of offending their black supporters, that says volumes.

[olde north church]

Request, to refer to Corzine as (Idiot-NJ) not the other way round. We have been occupied via fraudulent ballot boxes and State Supreme Court Justices who don't retire until their party volk are in power.

[Polybius]

From the article --- "Kerry seemed to trip over the issue a month ago when he told Jewish leaders the fence was a legitimate act of self defense after telling an Arab American group in October that the fence was “provocative” and a “barrier to peace.” Golly, another Kerry flip-flop!

That is not a flip-flop. Kerry is 100% consistent.

Kerry fully supports whatever position is favored by whatever group he is talking to at the moment and he is wholeheartedly committed to that position until he leaves the building.

Your problem is that you only value consistency of truth and totally ignore the value of consistency of political expediency. ;-)

[pfflier]

Senate Democrats are seeking to counter defections by some major Jewish donors to the Republicans by stressing their party’s pro-Israel stance.

Like the hildabeast playing huggy kissy with Arafat's wife.

[rrrod]

good point..i am not of the jewish faith but i cannot for the life of me understand how any one that is jewish can vote for a RAT...its totally beyond me

[bayourod]

"Democrats also hammered on the need for Saudi Arabia to clamp down on fundamentalist Islamic charities that fund terrorist organizations, on the need for tougher sanctions against Syria, and the need to halt Iranian efforts to develop a nuclear weapon."

Subject of course to a permission slip from France and unanimous consent of the UN General Assembly.

[olde north church]

They don't even have to go to du, all they have to do is look at the anti-war protest placards, most have palestinian groups as major supporters

[Timocrat]

I think you have got closest to the truth. Look at the situation pre and post 2000.

Pre 2000. Israel is constantly atttacked by terrorists and threatened by nearly all its neighbours and is isolated in the Middle East.

Post 2000. Israel and US attacked by terrorists and US reponds in the same way Israel has done for the past fifty years. US no longer believes 'the soft options' work dealing with Muslim fundamentalists.

Pre 2000 Israel is surrounded by states developing 'long strike' capabilities.( Syria, Syria - via Lebanon, Iraq, Libyia, Iran, Egypt etc)

Post 2000. Major aggressor knocked out(IRAQ) replaced by USAF, Marines and 81st Airborne who are on hand to deter any of Israels neighbours from doing anything hasty. Arab world finds out that the belief in 'strong leaders' has its drawbacks and that their problems are caused by an antiquated social and political system. Even Libya has 'come to Jesus' moment and decides that the risk of antagonising that "wildman" in the Oval Office is not worth it.

Add to which there are a whole lot of Christians who believe that the existence of Israel is necessary for the second coming( a belief I do not share)and that they are part of the social wing of the Republican party.

It is strange that any American jew who has attachments to Israel should vote for the Democrat party whose approach seems to have been "we must treat each party in the middle east equally". When the Arab states start behaving like civilised members of the world community they will deserve that respect but not before.

Is Israel blameless? No. Has there been bad things done by both sides? Of course. But Israel has been far more sinned against than sinned and our foreign policy is at last beginning to reflect that.

[andy58-in-nh]

Look for Kerry to be photographed eating blintzes and donning a yarmulke on the way to Temple next.

That certainly would be his style. But a schmuck in a yarmulke is still a schmuck.

[AlbionGirl]

...irks the Dems and delights welcoming Conservatives. Come home, where you belong!

Kerry seemed to trip over the issue a month ago when he told Jewish leaders the fence was a legitimate act of self defense after telling an Arab American group in October that the fence was “provocative” and a “barrier to peace.”

If there's a bigger pantload on the planet, I'd really like someone to point that person out. Kerry is a loser in the Jim Carrey 'lahohosaherher' sense.

[Objective Reality]

To any Jewish person who's on the fence about the Democrats "support" for Israel, I have two words for you:

"Democratic Underground."

Dot Com.

[mwl1]

We can be sure that the Kerry's will soon be planning a trip to Israel to shore up support from the Jewish community. They are both so intelligent. John will ask "where?" and Tereza will ask "why?"

[mwl1]

People have forgotten it, but in 1980, Carter only beat Reagan with Jewish voters by a 4:3 margin and Reagan carried Orthodox Jews by a margin of 4:1. Some of that was the economy, of course, but a great deal of it was distrust by Carter toward Israel.

[GeronL]

Senate Democrats are seeking to counter defections by some major Jewish donors to the Republicans by stressing their party’s pro-Israel stance

When did the Democrats become pro-Israel?? Today??

[Dog Gone]

In the era of soft money, an estimated 50 to 70 percent of large contributions to the Democratic Party and allied political units came from Jewish donors.

That's a pretty stunning figure considering that Jews make up 2% of our population.

[Doc On The Bay]

Well, H+LL!, WHY didn't you "Stop In!!"

You OUGHT To KNOW by NOW, that FReepers are ALWAYS Welcome here, "on the Point!!"

Doc

If we Don't get "W" re-elected, the "Gestapo" will probably "Take Us Away!"

'Better you "Visit us Now," since we may soon be "Politically Unavailable!"

"The Left" is beginning to resemble the 1930's German Nazi Party.

I HOPE we have the Political Strength to destroy this abberrant movement by RIDICULE.

I Believe we are IN DANGER.

FAR TOO MANY of our Citizens are ignorant of the Forces arrayed against us.

America is SPECIAL--& TOO MANY of our citizens have NEVER LEARNED WHY.

DOC