Libertarian seeks tax-raising Republican's Oregon House seat

www.lp.org ^ | 3 28 04 | www.lp.org

[Sweet Land]

"Cox also has the public support of at least three incumbent legislators"

Demo or Pubbie?

I don't know. Either way, it weighs against ServesURight's claim that Cox will "throw the election to the Rats."

[Il Duce]

I really can't imagine that you possibly don't understand what I'm saying, because that would be truly amazing.

I'll say it one more time though, just as plain and simple as I can, and then I'm through.

The merits of abortion, be they bad or good, has absolutely nothing to do with whether the Libertarian Party is generally more conservative or less conservative compared to the two major political parties.

I'm done.

[Dane]

I don't know. Either way, it weighs against ServesURight's claim that Cox will "throw the election to the Rats."

Well if those three "incumbant" persons, whose political affilation is unmentioned in the LP press release, are democrats, they certainly would give private support to Mr. Cox, IMO. We will never know since the "incumbants" political affiliation is never mentioned in the LP press release.

[Dane]

The merits of abortion, be they bad or good, has absolutely nothing to do with whether the Libertarian Party is generally more conservative or less conservative compared to the two major political parties.

IMO, abortion on demand has no "merit".

But what the hey I can understand why you want to run away from the issue of abortion, like most liberals do.

It brings up moral questions, and it is just easier to run a way from such questions.

[Taxman]

I am a pro-life conservative and I am all for having a gay marriage.

Shoot, FRom time to time, my first ex-wife and I had a gay marriage. But then, she had her mid-life crisis, became a sourpuss and put an end to our gay marriage, so I divorced her.

BUT HST, I AM STRONGLY OPPOSED TO HOMOSEXUAL MARRIAGE! THERE IS A DIFFERENCE, YOU KNOW?

When, oh when, fellow FReepers, are we going to stop dignifying homosexual behavior by using the term "gay" to describe that abnormal, perverse behavior?

Homosexuals are made, not born, and we should do all within our power to marginalize those perverts and PUSHEM BACK INTO THEIR DARK CLOSETS!

Not using the term "gay" and truthfully describing them as homosexuals is one way to do that.

[Dane]

When, oh when, fellow FReepers, are we going to stop dignifying homosexual behavior by using the term "gay"

Semantic point noted.

Although screaming about semantics doesn't reconcile the poltical points being debated on this thread, IMO.

[af_vet_rr]

Because the evidence, at state and federal levels, shows that Republicans are tax-raising, deficit-increasing, Big Stupid Government-growing weasels.

It's not just in Oregon either. Way too many RINOs at the state levels.

I'd like to see more libertarians win office, if only just to shake up the status quo, but that won't happen. The Republicans and democrats will fight back. They have too much of an interest in maintaining an unholy two party system.

[Dane]

They have too much of an interest in maintaining an unholy two party system.

JMO, reading the press release which is the body of this thread, it seems that the Libertarians have an interest in helping demos in Oregon.

[N3WBI3]

Because conservatives, and Libertarians need to show the republicans we will not be treated as the Democrats treat minorities...

[Dane]

Because conservatives, and Libertarians need to show the republicans we will not be treated as the Democrats treat minorities..

By helping democrats?

Also noted is your use of capitalizing Libertarians and Democrats, while leaving the first letter in republicans in a small case letter.

[N3WBI3]

Note that I have poor typing skills all you want, just don't ignore the point. In many state Conservatives and Libertarians have been screaming at *R*epublicans not to ignore us. In states like OR, NY, CA, and others we have begged and pleaded to throw us a bone. Every so often we are promised something, a conservative viewpoint and yet in these states we never get it.

We have a president who has run up a tremendous deficit by refusing to cap government spending and a senate full of Republicans who have done nothing to stop it. This race is a preview of what will happen when the proverbial straw finally falls...

[Dane]

Note that I have poor typing skills all you want, just don't ignore the point. In many state Conservatives and Libertarians have been screaming at *R*epublicans not to ignore us. In states like OR, NY, CA, and others we have begged and pleaded to throw us a bone. Every so often we are promised something, a conservative viewpoint and yet in these states we never get it.

We have a president who has run up a tremendous deficit by refusing to cap government spending and a senate full of Republicans who have done nothing to stop it. This race is a preview of what will happen when the proverbial straw finally falls.

I am not ignoring the point. The point is that the Libertarians in Oregon seem to have all their animus towards the Republicans and not against the demos.

[N3WBI3]

Because the Demo's never claim to be conservative, nor court conservative votes. If Democrats are running in the race (3-way) than they *ARE* running against the Demo and the republican..

[Dane]

Because the Demo's never claim to be conservative, nor court conservative votes. If Democrats are running in the race (3-way) than they *ARE* running against the Demo and the republican.

Looking at your above response, how can a demo run against a demo.

But what the hey, I'll give you the benefit of the doubt, you are a Libertarian defender, and it may be the bong that is speaking.

[xrp]

I am not ignoring the point. The point is that the Libertarians in Oregon seem to have all their animus towards the Republicans and not against the demos.

Well, think of it this way...let's say you live in New York City and you have two baseball teams (political parties) to choose to be a fan of...Mets or Yankees. You choose the Mets because the Mets have 6 team members (issues) of which you are a HUGE FAN (you hold these issues dear to you). You aren't a fan of the Yankees at all because they don't have any team members that you are a fan of. Then all of a sudden, the Mets trade your FAVORITE 6 players whom you are a HUGE FAN of and don't offer a good reason. Why would you feel slighted by the Yankees? You never expected anything from them in the first place, because you were never a fan of their team. Does it make any sense to get upset at the Yankees?

[Sweet Land]

Either way, it weighs against ServesURight's claim that Cox will "throw the election to the Rats."

Well if those three "incumbant" persons, whose political affilation is unmentioned in the LP press release, are democrats, they certainly would give private support to Mr. Cox, IMO.

Why would that be less likely if the incumbents are Republicans?

[Dane]

Well, think of it this way...let's say you live in New York City and you have two baseball teams (political parties) to choose to be a fan of...Mets or Yankees. You choose the Mets because the Mets have 6 team members (issues) of which you are a HUGE FAN (you hold these issues dear to you). You aren't a fan of the Yankees at all because they don't have any team members that you are a fan of. Then all of a sudden, the Mets trade your FAVORITE 6 players whom you are a HUGE FAN of and don't offer a good reason. Why would you feel slighted by the Yankees? You never expected anything from them in the first place, because you were never a fan of their team. Does it make any sense to get upset at the Yankees?

Uh I would be upset with the Yankees in the first place, they are the adversary.

A corrollary, should I have gone and helped the nazis, because I was mad about Patton being reprimanded.

[Dane]

Why would that be less likely if the incumbents are Republicans?

Uh because it isn't mentioned in the LP press release.

Intellectual honesty and all that.

[N3WBI3]

Democrat-Republican-Libertarian, three way race both the Demo and the Repub have to run against the Libertarian. BTW I am not a libertarian, I tend to vote conservative or Constitutionalist. Usually one of these parties endorse the Repub so I end up voting that way but I will not be a slave to a party that votes more and more like the democrats every year..

[Dane]

Democrat-Republican-Libertarian, three way race both the Demo and the Repub have to run against the Libertarian.

Which in recent American political history helps the democrats win.