[mrsmith]

"let's stop kidding ourselves here. "

Yes, the fact is that this hasn't hurt the president.

However, the hearings this week should have hurt the Dems but Clarke's charges have mitigated that for now.

Many people read the NYTimes but only liberals believe what is in it.

[oceanview]

but many more people then get their news from a another "source" in the media matrix that get's its orders from the top. again, Goldberg lays it all out.