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i see people here expressing what they believe is their truthful opinions on what they saw. hiding, or lying to ourselves, is not going to help.

No one should hide or lie.

But, was this the first time anyone has watched 60 Minutes? How long does it take to understand what that show is all about? Are we stupid? I think we need to get control of our expectations.

its not "us" here on FR we need to worry about. its alot of other americans who either see it directly, or who will now consume this story as it filters down the chain of command in the media matrix.

read Bernard Goldberg's book, he describes perfectly how the "news" is created in this country.

But, was this the first time anyone has watched 60 Minutes? How long does it take to understand what that show is all about?

Of course, but then again, the power of such news programs is most apparent in how they leverage into other media.

Here's the AP report: Rice Rejecting Calls for Public Testimony

Looks as if AP saw it foremost as a good opportunity to summarize all the the latest Clarke allegations.

Here's Reuters: Rice Rejects Public Testimony to 9/11 Panel

Most of the nation's newspapers will print one or the other tomorrow, so now we know what the opening tone for the week is - Condi's "refusal to testify"...

Without a doubt cBS did a real hatchet job in the Dr. Rice interview. The problem for them is that they over played their hand.

The bias is so blatant and demonstrable that we should call the folks at Media Research Center and Bernard Goldberg to come out and grill cBS for a few weeks. cBS has handed these folks exhibit 1A supporting what they have been saying for years. The lib elite media establishment went ballistic the last few times we exposed them for bias, there is no reason we shouldn't take these latest examples and shove down their throats!

The time to go on the offensive against the lib elite media is NOW! Their credibility must be seriously taken to task before this fall's election season. The more damage we do in exposing their blatant lies now, the less effective they will be when they try to pull the dreaded Oct. surprise.

IMHO, these people have declared propaganda war on us -- it is propaganda war we should give them. I am sick of swatting flies, let's drain the swamp!