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Keep bases here, Germany implores U.S.
AP Wire | March 28 2004 | MELISSA EDDY/AP

Posted on 03/28/2004 5:36:02 AM PST by knighthawk

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To: archy; Cannoneer No. 4; Valin; Matthew James; Squantos; Travis McGee; Jeff Head
Having spent close to seven years in Germany in the early 70's and then again in the 80's, I saw various sides to Germany. Many Americans were Kaserne rats, never left and cursed Germans and Germany each and every day. If they got out and saw the countryside and tried to follow customs the German people as a whole appreciated it. The last time we were there I made a good friend of an elderly gentleman who had been a POW in Mississippi. His english was flawless and his patience was endless in tutoring me in everyday German. He also made certain I knew how to contact him if I needed to in time of emergency. The Iron curtain was still there and the Soviet threat was dealt with daily. He told me the value of a friend who could help him as the American's helped him in WWII.

Now there is a new generation of Germans coming on board, they do not know the horrors of Hitler. They see only arrogance among Americans from the slant the media puts on everything. I say, fine let them figure out how to deal with their inflation and unemployment. My relatives are from Poland, maybe it is time to go look them up.
41 posted on 03/28/2004 6:32:30 AM PST by SLB ("We must lay before Him what is in us, not what ought to be in us." C. S. Lewis)
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To: knighthawk
Our offshore stationed military units should be redeployed to those countries who are a part of the Iraq liberation coalition. 'F' those who lack the fortitude to stand up and defend what's right for the world, and for the United States.
42 posted on 03/28/2004 6:34:34 AM PST by harpu
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To: knighthawk
Das Alte Europe
43 posted on 03/28/2004 6:39:10 AM PST by expatguy (Subliminal Advertising Executive)
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To: SamAdams76
I can think of 2 you could burn...

"I wouldn't want to be like you"

"You lie down with dogs" (you get up with fleas)
44 posted on 03/28/2004 6:40:20 AM PST by Drammach (Freedom; not just a job, it's an adventure..)
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To: mewzilla
Germany you can kiss my grits!
45 posted on 03/28/2004 6:40:28 AM PST by cyborg (troll on a stick)
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To: mystery-ak
"You're either for us, or against us," President Bush. Apparently it's "against us" and we need to leave Germany.
46 posted on 03/28/2004 6:42:06 AM PST by madison10
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To: mewzilla

Nein Nein Dummkopfs!!

47 posted on 03/28/2004 6:49:51 AM PST by expatguy (Subliminal Advertising Executive)
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To: knighthawk
Let's be frank - the Bavarians and Germans only decided that they loved us and would miss us when we decided that we didn't need to be there supporting their socialist, rotten, anti-American government. I've no doubt that the mayors are distressed and trying to do what Schroeder won't. The mayors know how much economic damage will be done by an American pullout, but Schroeder's government could care less as long as remains in charge.
48 posted on 03/28/2004 6:52:25 AM PST by DustyMoment (Repeal CFR NOW!!)
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To: cyborg; expatguy
LOL. Weasels.
49 posted on 03/28/2004 6:52:43 AM PST by mewzilla
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To: madison10; All
Huh? Ladies and Gentlemen,

why tf do you think this is related to the war against Iraq? And while we are on it, why do you confuse the war on terror with the war against Iraq? Even CENTCOM separates them, so why shouldn´t we do so?

Germany opposed the Iraq war, but is actively on Americas side in the war on terrorism. This is a matter of fact, and everyone who claims otherwise should look up the official websites.

Btt, the Pentagon planned to reduce its forces in Europe since years, and it´s understandable that there´s no need for 70,000 servicemen and -women in the heart of Europe. There´ll be two or three dozens of thousands soldiers kept to obtain important bases like Ramstein - a strategical key base in Europe.

But it makes sense to withdraw the 1st infantry division and the 1st armoured division. Times change, and so the US armed forces move on.

Regards from Germany,

Michael
50 posted on 03/28/2004 6:53:55 AM PST by Michael81Dus
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To: knighthawk
Germany can send a 1000 civil affairs, 1000 light infantry, and 2000 MPs to Iraq , and maybe we'll call it even....

(yeah, right)
51 posted on 03/28/2004 6:54:44 AM PST by mikenola
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To: SLB
I grew up on an Army base in 1950s Yokohama, Japan, much like the military families do today in Germany. American money was the source for thousands of Japanese paychecks but beginning in about 1970, Yokohama and a half dozen other facilities were fazed out and the grounds turned over to Japan. The Japanese survived, even prospered after we left. The individual Japanese I correspond with say they are glad we left when we did.
52 posted on 03/28/2004 6:56:21 AM PST by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: Michael81Dus
"And while we are on it, why do you confuse the war on terror with the war against Iraq?"

Did Saddam or did he not support terrorism?

http://209.157.64.200/focus/f-news/1106657/posts
Saddam Warned of WTC Attack Before 9/11, Praised Bin Laden Afterwards

http://209.157.64.200/focus/f-news/1105679/posts

53 posted on 03/28/2004 7:01:59 AM PST by Broadside Joe
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To: knighthawk
I'm sure the Germans will ask the French, who will be more than happy, to move in to the bases after we leave. /sarcasm
54 posted on 03/28/2004 7:03:33 AM PST by OrioleFan (Republicans believe every day is July 4th, DemocRATs believe every day is April 15th. - Reagan)
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To: OrioleFan
lets tear down the bases as we leave
56 posted on 03/28/2004 7:06:43 AM PST by rrrod
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To: mystery-ak
The protsest was a combined protest against the war and also against the presence of missiles at US bases in Germany.
57 posted on 03/28/2004 7:13:01 AM PST by knighthawk (Full of power I'm spreading my wings. I have started my journey, I'm drifting away with the wind,)
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To: rrrod
There are 3 reasons to close the bases:
1) The bases should be located on the basis of what is best
for protecting the US - moved east they are less expensive, more efficient and more effective at doing that job.
2) It is NOT the US taxpayers' responsibility to maintain Germany's semi-socialist economy; we already are being forced to pay for the whole world's drug research.
3)It is long past the time that Europe realized they are responsible for their own defense and economic health.
58 posted on 03/28/2004 7:13:23 AM PST by NHResident
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To: knighthawk
Germany is the main economic engine of the European Union. And it's sucking eggs (-0.1% growth last quarter). If we can deal a serious blow to the German economy, it will reverberate all over the EU. And after all the overt hostility we've been getting from them recently, I think we should do it without delay.
59 posted on 03/28/2004 7:13:53 AM PST by Starve The Beast (I used to be disgusted, but now I try to be amused)
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To: Broadside Joe
Did Saddam or did he not support terrorism?

Was that the question or was that not the question?

Unlike Afghanistan, Iraq did not pose an immediate threat to the western world. It was morally right to liberate Iraq - but that´s all. I have understanding for those who do not regard this as sufficient to attack a ´sovereign´ country.

60 posted on 03/28/2004 7:14:08 AM PST by Michael81Dus
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