[Qwinn]

To us, yes.

To the Left, he'll always be a hero, because the Left thinks they never lose an argument until they admit it. The same goes for the credibility of their "heroes".

I mean, look at the way they still defend Alger Hiss, beyond any and all evidence, fact or reason. The evidence that the guy was a Soviet Spy was overwhelming 50 years ago, and it's ten times as overwhelming today.

No. As anyone can easily see, the Left believes they hold the only key to Truth. As long as they don't admit that Clarke is a perjuring egomaniac, he will be hailed as an honest and wonderful hero, afforded all matter of awards and praise in the halls of the Ivy League, even if all empirical evidence proved beyond doubt that he raped a dozen women and attended dinner parties with Jeffrey Dommer. It's their standard operating procedure.

Qwinn

[MJY1288]

You are talking about the rabid left who dream of the day when we have no american government and who long for the day when we have a global tax and global government. They represent less than 20% of the left. The 60% that represents the middle America, are people who pay little attention to this ugly game we call politics, they see the facts and don't get to worried about some fool who thinks George W. Bush is to blame for 9/11. If Ray Charles can see through this lying sack of shiite (AKA Richard Clarke) The American people will have little trouble doing so :-)

[7thson]

You are quite correct. The other day, I was speaking with a woman who made the statement that she met John Kerry, thought he was brillant, and would make a great President. Not wanting to cause animosity in the work place, I mentioned one of the things that bothered me about Kerry was him calling Viet Nam vets war criminals and baby killers, ending with I have two brothers who served in Nam and they're not baby killers. Instead of coming back with some kind of rational argument, she states that people came back from that war with different viewpoints. And then she suddenly had to go to a meeting.

I was truly irked then. It seems that way all the time with libs - they make some idiotic statement and then will not stick around to defend the statement. And this from a woman with two degrees!