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Assessing the Blame for 9/11
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| March 25, 2004
| NY Times Editorial Board
Posted on 03/25/2004 3:54:05 AM PST by Jim Noble
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Only the editorials endorsing Bill Clinton for reelection in 1996 and the editorial endorsing her heinous for Senator in 2000 even approach this one in dishonesty.
"Distracted by impeachment"? Is that really why Clinton did not respond to the 1993 WTC bombing?
Was Monica really a Halliburton plant?
What a disgrace for a once-proud editorial voice.
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posted on
03/25/2004 3:54:06 AM PST
by
Jim Noble
To: Jim Noble
Evidently Mr. Clark retains credibility only with the editorial board of the NY Times. They have truly become pathetic.
Later today we'll see the fish-wrap ping-picture on this thread, and it will be richly deserved.
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posted on
03/25/2004 3:57:58 AM PST
by
jocon307
(The dems don't get it, the American people do.)
To: Jim Noble
Bill Clinton, distracted by the threat of impeachment, failed to educate the American people adequately about the nature of the danger, and what it might take to fight it.Wrong answer. WTC #1 was in 93, Somalia as well. The MAG bombing was in 1995 and Al Khobar Towers was in 96. Also, ramzi Yousef's plot to blow up 10 airliners simultaneously was discovered by the Philipines in 95. Impeachment occured in 98..
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posted on
03/25/2004 3:59:27 AM PST
by
cardinal4
(Terrence Maculiffe-Ariolimax columbianus (hint- its a gastropod.....)
To: Jim Noble
The guy decides to do some grandstanding to up the sales of his book and pretend some humility, and the NYT thinks he's great. It should also be noted that he has absolutely nothing to lose and everything to gain by starting a scandal of "failure".
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posted on
03/25/2004 4:03:44 AM PST
by
trebb
(Ain't God good . . .)
To: cardinal4
Oh stop with your facts already.
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posted on
03/25/2004 4:04:29 AM PST
by
Bahbah
To: Jim Noble
No, a better example of the Times' dishonesty (bias) is their current defense of the wealthy donors and independent groups funding the donkeys' presidential race.
Their support for McCain/Feingold was totally grounded in the corruptive influences of large donations. No editorial page screamed louder about getting the "undisclosed, uncontrolled large contributions out of the election process". Now, less than a year later, the donkeys have become totally dependent on even less-disclosed, less-controlled donations...and the Times has no problem with it.
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posted on
03/25/2004 4:06:35 AM PST
by
Timeout
(Down with Donks!)
To: Jim Noble
Bill Clinton, distracted by the threat of impeachment,...Of course, if he hadn't lied from the get-go....
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posted on
03/25/2004 4:13:58 AM PST
by
Timeout
(Down with Donks!)
To: Jim Noble
Like always from the Demo craps, do a misdeed and blame it on the other guy or neglect a responsibility and blame it on the other guy. Better yet, tell a lie, tell it long enough and loud enough for it to be perceived as truth. Scary thing is it works in this flock of sheeple and brain deads that seem to make up at least 50 percent of the population.
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posted on
03/25/2004 4:14:41 AM PST
by
jedi150
To: Jim Noble
Oh, I forgot to add to reinforce it by having 2 Senators (Hitlery and Scary) saying Republicans are all liars and crooks!
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posted on
03/25/2004 4:19:54 AM PST
by
jedi150
To: Jim Noble
Richard has no credibility.When he points a finger of blame
at the government he was part of (and still is?) And insists
your governemnt failed you -and I failed you but you really need to know those things I said before dont mean
as much a swhat I'm saying today and none of it will mean
anything tomorrow the guy i sjust pathetic. NO administration since the 70's ever wanted to consider or
allow Americans consider the Muslim Jihad against America had begun -and if our system of law enforcement is Only
Reactive then until some bad a__ does somehting nothing can be done this 9-11 commission is just a fart in the bathtub.
To: Jim Noble
What is interesting about this 'blame placement' panel is that they have refused to hear about Clinton's confession about having UBL offered from Sudan in 1998 when taking out binLaden could possibly have prevented 9/11, BUT they will hear hours of conflicting testimony from a disgruntled former employee, who just happens to be selling a book, who is harshly critical of GW Bush. All this just in time for the 2004 election cycle? My how convenient. I bet this gives the families of 9/11 victims a real warm, fuzzy feeling that this panel is arriving at the truth?
To: eeriegeno; Jim Noble
I doubt taking out bin Laden would have prevented 9/11. But it would have signaled an end to the "crime files" approach to fighting terrorism.
The "Iraq is making terrorism worse" and "killing sheikh Yassin will bring more rage" positions are two sides of the same argument: wait, don't do anything. After all, someone might get hurt.
We need to face it: this is a world war, and while we're fighting it, some of us and some of our enemy will die.
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posted on
03/25/2004 4:50:12 AM PST
by
risk
To: Jim Noble
I blame AQ
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posted on
03/25/2004 4:51:07 AM PST
by
ChadGore
(kwitchyurbellyakin or bailthehellout!)
To: ChadGore; Jim Noble
I blame al Qaeda -- and the underpinnings of a dead civilization that some fanatics want to revive at all cost. Some of them are secular, some of them are religious. But they wall want to destroy all vestigates of western success.
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posted on
03/25/2004 4:54:51 AM PST
by
risk
To: jedi150
Scary thing is it works in this flock of sheeple and brain deads that seem to make up at least 50 percent of the population.This entire hearing is a brilliant piece of Democrat propaganda. The facts (e.g., the Fox transcript), when they contradict the Demo line, can simply be brushed aside as irrelevant, while emotions are stirred up by gestures such as Clarke's phony apology, Kerrey's phony indignation about confidentiality, and the blatantly politically-motivated audience's applause for Clarke, as if he is some self-sacrificing whistle-blower rather than a shameless hawker of another literary hatchet job. Clarke is extremely smooth and slippery, and his act will deceive many of those who are looking for an explanation of 9/11 that suits their preconceptions.
To: eeriegeno
When spolesmen for the administration come out to refute Clarke's testimony, the Dems call "foul."
However, so far I have seen Chris Dodd on Imus and Harold Ford on Fox this morning, using the 'families' as cover for their attempt to bring down GWB.
I'm sure that dem spokesmen are all over the broadcast networks today as well.
When the White House doesn't fold up and cry "Uncle" the nasty dems just get nastier.
I am heartened by the fact that they are squealing so loudly. We must have hit a nerve.
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posted on
03/25/2004 5:00:52 AM PST
by
maica
(World Peace starts with W)
To: Jim Noble
Where's the mandatory BARF alert on nyslimes articles about GW?
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posted on
03/25/2004 5:01:22 AM PST
by
GailA
(Kerry I'm for the death penalty for terrorist, but I'll declare a moratorium on the death penalty)
To: Jim Noble
I keep going over Clarke's testimony in my head.
Basically what he said was that in the case of 9/11, Bush acted wrong by not acting pre-emptively based on sketchy information to stop the possibility of a terrorist attack, but in the case of Iraq, he acted wrong by taking pre-emptive actions to stop possible terrorist attacks, based on solid intelligence from our allies and the United Nations?
Is it me or...?
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posted on
03/25/2004 5:01:37 AM PST
by
Luis Gonzalez
(Unless the world is made safe for Democracy, Democracy won't be safe in the world.)
To: GailA
Reduntant = NYT + Barf alert
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posted on
03/25/2004 5:10:57 AM PST
by
maica
(World Peace starts with W)
To: Luis Gonzalez
Did these guys watch the same hearings I did?!?
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posted on
03/25/2004 5:12:30 AM PST
by
Semper Vigilantis
(I'd vote for Ted Kennedy - If it was to be Kerry's chauffer.)
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