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U.S. Will Give Cold Fusion Second Look, After 15 Years
NY Times ^ | March 25, 2004 | KENNETH CHANG

Posted on 03/24/2004 11:52:23 PM PST by neverdem

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To: neverdem; Physicist
The believer in cold fusion will not accept a negative report. Thus the review panel will have no effect.
21 posted on 03/25/2004 12:54:41 AM PST by AdmSmith
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To: kcvl; All
Thanks for your post. This fellow was published in Science, a prestigious, peer reviewed journal. The question is how much energy must be expended in order to get the deuterium, even if cold fusion works, IMHO, because so far the Laws of Thermodynamics have never been violated, IIRC. Here's a link:

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&ie=UTF-8&q=Rusi+Taleyarkhan%2BPerdue%2BScience&spell=1
22 posted on 03/25/2004 12:56:19 AM PST by neverdem (Xin loi min oi)
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To: neverdem
bump for later reading
23 posted on 03/25/2004 1:08:24 AM PST by Captain Beyond (The Hammer of the gods! (Just a cool line from a Led Zep song))
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To: DoughtyOne
I'm not sure what compels people to trash efforts to find new discoveries

Self-conceit, vanity, egotism.
The more knowledge we collect, the more puffed up we get.
And some people would rather say their mother's a whore than admit they're wrong.

24 posted on 03/25/2004 1:48:28 AM PST by trickyricky
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To: neverdem
>>Fairy tales can come true

HEY!! It's right here in the NY Times...it has to be true.
25 posted on 03/25/2004 2:01:18 AM PST by The Raven
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To: trickyricky
Self-conceit, vanity, egotism.

....Oil stock shares...

26 posted on 03/25/2004 2:08:22 AM PST by Consort
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To: FL_engineer
Ping for later reading .
27 posted on 03/25/2004 2:14:10 AM PST by Las Vegas Dave (Vote GOP)
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To: Amelia
placemarker
28 posted on 03/25/2004 3:11:41 AM PST by Amelia
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To: kcvl
Some scientists maintain that it is impossible; others say it’s possible ...

I'd like to think that it is possible. Then, when the power company calls, you can say: Reconnect fee? I don't think so.
29 posted on 03/25/2004 3:14:10 AM PST by Maurice Tift
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To: DoughtyOne
Yeah, imagine how crazy it must've sounded when two guys in the 1940s said they wanted to make electricity "think." Sounds nuts, doesn't it? Well, I have about six of those impossible "computer" machines sitting in my apartment right now. Nothing is impossible, it just needs to be figured out.
30 posted on 03/25/2004 3:30:14 AM PST by Future Snake Eater ("Oh boy, I can't wait to eat that monkey!"--Abe Simpson)
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To: VadeRetro; jennyp; Junior; longshadow; RadioAstronomer; Physicist; LogicWings; Doctor Stochastic; ..
Ping for half my list.
31 posted on 03/25/2004 3:39:28 AM PST by PatrickHenry (Everything good that I have done, I have done at the command of my voices.)
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To: quietolong
Not a chance! Can you say Big Oil.

Perhaps Big Oil will become Big Hydrogen!

32 posted on 03/25/2004 3:44:54 AM PST by reg45
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To: reg45
Perhaps Big Oil will become Big Hydrogen!

Or Big Palladium.


BUMP

33 posted on 03/25/2004 4:00:59 AM PST by tm22721 (May the UN rest in peace)
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To: neverdem
cold fusion has continued to be worked on by a small group of scientists, and they say their figures unambiguously verify the original report, that energy can be generated simply by running an electrical current through a jar of water.

And all you have to do is 5 easy payments of $19.95 (in millions) in grant money...

34 posted on 03/25/2004 4:04:58 AM PST by blanknoone (Give Kerry enough nuance, and he will hang himself.)
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To: neverdem
U.S. Will Give Cold Fusion Second Look

I watched Cold Fusion last night. Warren Miller movies are awesome.

35 posted on 03/25/2004 4:15:46 AM PST by Keeper of the Turf (Fore!!!)
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To: PatrickHenry
thanks for the ping.

Fusion by-products and other anomalies have been reported.
We will see if they can be repeated.
36 posted on 03/25/2004 4:51:54 AM PST by edwin hubble
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To: kcvl; All
Many US and labs overseas (and some FReepers) have reproduced cold fusion.
There was an open demo this Summer attended by FReepers.
At that meeting, Mitshubishi and Toyota presented their recent results.

Click for info

Theoretical Framework for Anomalous Heat and 4He in Transition Metal Systems

Deuteron Fluxing and the Ion Band State Theory

Calorimetric Principles and Problems in Pd-D2O Electrolysis

Anomalous Effects in Deuterated Systems, Final Report

Thermal and Nuclear Aspects of the Pd/D2O System, Vol 1

Thermal and Nuclear Aspects of the Pd/D2O System, Vol 2

"...California is experiencing rolling blackouts due to power shortages.
Conventional engineering, planned ahead, could have prevented these
blackouts, but it has been politically expedient to ignore the inevitable.
We do not know if Cold Fusion will be the answer to future energy needs,
but we do know the existence of Cold Fusion phenomenon through
repeated observations by scientists throughout the world.
It is time that this phenomenon be investigated
so that we can reap whatever benefits accrue from additional scientific understanding.
It is time for government funding organizations to invest in this research"

Dr. Frank E. Gordon
Head, Navigation and Applied Sciences Department
Space and Naval Warfare Systems Center, San Diego

37 posted on 03/25/2004 4:55:25 AM PST by Diogenesis (If you mess with one of us, you mess with all of us)
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To: claudiustg
Do you drive your Insight at night with headlights, use the A/C, use the heater?

The EPA does none of these things when they run their tests because the effect of these devices is small on a gas engine. It is huge on a hybrid.

Hybrids work okay in urban environments in temperate zones as "go to work" cars. I don't think we'll see one that can fit a large family (and the ones in my church these days are forced to buy 15 passenger vans due in part to ever more obnoxious child seat rules.)
38 posted on 03/25/2004 4:59:08 AM PST by sittnick (There's no salvation in politics.)
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To: neverdem
U.S. Will Give Cold Fusion Second Look, After 15 Years

I recently met someone from the Institute for Defense Analyses who told me they were asked by the government to prepare an analysis of the field of so-called cold fusion and that their conclusion was that there was actually something going on but that the government should let the science settle out before funding research.
39 posted on 03/25/2004 5:02:54 AM PST by aruanan
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To: aruanan
Another CF article here
40 posted on 03/25/2004 5:04:51 AM PST by Diogenesis (If you mess with one of us, you mess with all of us)
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