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Posted on 03/24/2004 1:11:50 PM PST by chance33_98
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To: chance33_98
I thought our landfills were to be overrun with disposable diapers which last longer than the pyramids and are full of every toxicity known to man. Before that it was used TV's and computers. I just can't keep all these environmental crises straight.
To: chance33_98
In some European countries when you buy electronics a small charge is added at the time of purchase for recycling. When the item is broken or obsolete the user simply turns it in for recycling. Really it is the same as returning empty soda bottles.
To: Fierce Allegiance
"seriously (and i am no enviro freak by any means) all the batterias we dispose from tools and phones, etc, contain nasty heavy metals in the Nicad and nimh." Where, he asked innocently, did all these evil substances come from? Were they deposited by aliens descending from flying saucers?...
...or were they taken from the f**king ground,, friend?
--Boris
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posted on
03/24/2004 2:19:39 PM PST
by
boris
(The deadliest Weapon of Mass Destruction in History is a Leftist With a Word Processor)
To: chance33_98
Yeah, all those nasty chemicals came from the cell phone factories ... certainly not from the ground.
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posted on
03/24/2004 2:21:27 PM PST
by
GingisK
To: chance33_98
The stupidity of articles like this is staggering. If cell-phones are a hazard, what the hell do they consider batteries to be?
500 million cell phones probably make up .000001% of the total volume of trash. And I would guess that batteries in general (9 volt, 12 volt, AA, AAA, C, D, etc) probably take up 1000 times as much space as the cell phones, since batteries are used for thousands of products.
I think I will avoid losing sleep over this article, and instead, prepare for an additional tax on my cell phone bill that does nothing to help the problem, but instead is used to pad federal/state budgets and redistribute my wealth.
To: chance33_98
Donate old phones to a local women's shelter. Cell phones, even when not activated, can be used to call 911. And it's a tax write off. Win/win.
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posted on
03/24/2004 2:24:06 PM PST
by
GOPJ
(NFL Owners: Grown men don't watch hollywood peep shows with wives and children.)
To: Fierce Allegiance
Hello Fierce -
I admit my ignorance of "nasty heavy metals in the Nicad and nimh."
Please inform me of pertinent peer reviewed studies indicating damage to water sources caused by Nicad and nimh, such as -
1) Affected water sources
a) location
b) ppm found
c) adverse affects
d) co-relation between batteries and consequent affects
e) time frame required to cause affects
f) laboratory studies showing ppm (or ppb) necessary to affect various study groups or animals.
g) soil composition
h) possible related environmental factors
2) Individuals involved in the studies
a) government, university or private researchers
b) source of funding
c) any connections with prior studies that might affect their objectivity
d) connections to groups or foundations, current or former
I'm interested in this subject for various reasons. If you can't refer me to the peer reviewed science because of personal commitments or other reasons, that's okay.
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posted on
03/24/2004 2:33:06 PM PST
by
sergeantdave
(Gen. Custer wore an Arrowsmith shirt to his last property owner convention.)
To: Straight Vermonter
"In some European countries when you buy electronics a small charge is added at the time of purchase for recycling. When the item is broken or obsolete the user simply turns it in for recycling. Really it is the same as returning empty soda bottles."
The difference being that they might actually recycle them... unless you melt it down you are simply paying a fee for the extra garbage you are tossing out.
... and if these cell4cash guys are willing to pay YOU for your old stuff, why would you need to pay an upfront fee ?
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posted on
03/24/2004 2:34:58 PM PST
by
RS
(Just because they're out to get him doesn't mean he's not guilty)
To: chance33_98
Since reading these postings I'm feeling doomed - which as you know is not a good feeling. Which also makes me feel like a victim in a twisted sort of way. Which makes me want to sue somebody cause (I'm proudly part of that growing majorityof victims)I feel guilty using a cell phone. So if we all sue our way to riches we don't need those manufacturing jobs . . and . . and . . where was I? Oh yeah, we're all doomed.
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posted on
03/24/2004 2:37:27 PM PST
by
BipolarBob
(Your secrets safe with me and my friends deep inside the earth.)
To: BipolarBob
"Oh yeah, we're all doomed."
No,no... You were right, we are all the victims... so we get to sue the cellphone companies for billions... We can all retire on the judgement against them...
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posted on
03/24/2004 5:12:19 PM PST
by
RS
(Just because they're out to get him doesn't mean he's not guilty)
To: boris
Uranium is also taken from the ground, but can be a little on the nasty side, wouldn't you agree? Similarly, coal tar, which has resided in the earth for eons, can create a serious pollution problem when not properly disposed.
My point is that while nothing new has been created, when removed from it's original location and/or modified in form can create new problems.
Why is recycling a problem for you? Are you saying it's just fine for this stuff to leach into our fresh water supply?
To: sergeantdave
I think you are intelligent enough to figure out that nickel and cadmium have the potential to create pollution problems, and are also able to find all the info you desire on the effects of heavy metal pollution. Similarly, you can ignore these possibilities should you so desire.
Here's a link to help you:
Research Link
To: Fierce Allegiance
"Uranium is also taken from the ground, but can be a little on the nasty side, wouldn't you agree?" As Dr. Petr Beckmann pointed out, burning uranium in reactors actually reduces the net amount of radioactive material on earth.
When nuclear plants replace coal-fired plants, the amount of radioactivity released drops to near-zero. Coal, e.g., contains small quantities of radioactive substances, which are injected into the atmosphere when the coal is burned. So much coal is burned that the overall quantity of radioactive species is significant.
"Think globally."
--Boris
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posted on
03/26/2004 9:25:46 AM PST
by
boris
(The deadliest Weapon of Mass Destruction in History is a Leftist With a Word Processor)
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