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Putting Tolerance to the Test: The Rise of Islam in Europe
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| March 22, 2004
| Dale Hurd
Posted on 03/22/2004 10:19:02 AM PST by Between the Lines
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"This is the kind of people we are dealing with - people who do not come to our country to adapt, to make a new life, to start again, to make a living, to be thankful for the country that accepts them. We are talking about people who, in fact, come to us as rulers, who want to become masters in our country. And I personally think, I fear, that this is a part of the Islamic religion."
To: Between the Lines
SEEMS SO!
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posted on
03/22/2004 10:25:45 AM PST
by
RAY
(Right or wrong, it is my country!)
To: Between the Lines
There are as many as 15 million Arabs and Muslims living in Europe. Europe needs babies and immigrants, because its birthrate has implodedA large part of the mative birthrate implosion, both in Europe and in the U.S., is the RESULT of massive 3rd Worlder immigration. Taxes go higher and higher, and a good chunk is for welfare programs and free public education to these immigrants. Civilized people who don't want their own standard of living heading the way of the 3rd World, put off having children and have fewer, because they're being taxed so heavily and don't have a lot left over.
To: Between the Lines
The Dutch parliament voted to expel 26,000 asylum seekers, many of them from the Third World. Many of them? Wouldn't they all be from the Third World? What you would be seeking asylum from if you were from a wealthy, industrialized nation?
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03/22/2004 10:33:15 AM PST
by
prion
To: Between the Lines
They like to think that they are more enlightened and tolerant than the rest of the world......when in actuality they are short-sighted, foolish, appeasement-minded, and effete.
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03/22/2004 10:36:32 AM PST
by
luvbach1
(In the know on the border)
To: Between the Lines
What do muslim immigrants to the West ultimately want? Could they really want to turn their Western hosts' countries into the third-world hellholes from whence they came?
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posted on
03/22/2004 10:40:42 AM PST
by
luvbach1
(In the know on the border)
To: luvbach1
I think you're on to something.
To: Between the Lines
Jean-Marie Le Pen, of France's far-right political party National Front, told CBN News that the cause of most of France's problems are immigrants from Africa and Asia, and his slogan is "France for the French." Unfortunately, the right wing will be attacked as 'racist' by the moderate liberal elite media.
The only good thing I see happening is the nuclear disarmament of France by its peacenik politicians in advance of sharia law in that country.
That France would fall, complete with its nuclear arsenal, to Islamists, is a distinct possibility in coming decades.
To: Between the Lines
The Wall Street Journal has an interesting editorial on this subject, today. They state that these Muslim immigrants moved to Europe, not to assimiliate but to colonize (my term, not the author's). The immigrants left the oppression of their own Arab states for the freedom of the democracies but the only freedom that they were interested in was to follow their own Islamic law. Many of the leaders of the these exiles were persona non grata in their own countries, haven't openly encouraged rebellion of the lower classes against the rulers. The head Islamacist in London is under a death sentence in Egypt,and cannot go to any other Arab country for fear of extradition. The Arab countries, along with the Euro weaners are hoping that appeasement of the Islamofascists will spare them from the wrath of the terrorists. They are living in a dream world.
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03/22/2004 10:47:15 AM PST
by
Eva
To: Between the Lines
''JahJah said, "It doesn't want to adapt to the fact that this society is multicultural now.''
The problem is the Islamists do not want a multcultural country. They want to destroy the European cultural and force the Sharia on Europe.
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posted on
03/22/2004 10:47:25 AM PST
by
LauraJean
(Fukai please pass the squid sauce)
To: Between the Lines
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03/22/2004 10:52:55 AM PST
by
petercooper
(I actually did vote for the $87 Billion, before I voted against it.)
To: Between the Lines
Good article. Bttt
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03/22/2004 10:53:41 AM PST
by
DoctorMichael
(The Fourth Estate is a Fifth Column!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
To: Between the Lines
French Nuclear Forces Guide30 June 1996 Cessation of the production of highly enriched uranium for nuclear weapons
It appears France is undergoing a nuclear disarmamant program - this is one 'surrender' that might actually save us much grief in the future...
To: prion
Wouldn't they all be from the Third World? I also loved the part about how they live in slums with high unemployment rates. Any slum is better than a dried mud and camel dung house in sub-Saharan Africa with zero chances of employment.
To: Eva
I'll have to check that out in the WSJ. I must say though, that it would be out of character for the WSJ journal to print anything remotely critical of mass immigration. Usually they engage in leftwing tactics of smearing anyone who dares to question the glories of it; or maybe its the case that that only applies to mass immigration into the United States.
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03/22/2004 11:04:23 AM PST
by
Aetius
In the absense of a religious revival (which seems very unlikely) does anyone think that there is a chance that Europeans will ever decide to simply have more children, and reverse their slow demographic death?
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03/22/2004 11:08:35 AM PST
by
Aetius
To: Aetius
No, the editorial was written by the author of a book, The Dream Palace of the Arabs, not a member of the WSJ editorial board. But it would apply only to Arab immigrants, anyway. I don't think that the WSJ sees the other US immigrants as a fifth column.
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posted on
03/22/2004 11:18:58 AM PST
by
Eva
To: Between the Lines
bumping for a later read
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posted on
03/22/2004 11:25:55 AM PST
by
jocon307
(The dems don't get it, the American people do.)
To: LauraJean
>>The problem is the Islamists do not want a multcultural country. They want to destroy the European cultural and force the Sharia on Europe.
That isn't the real problem. The real problem is that most of Europe has blinders to this fact, and is unwilling to recognize it and take appropriate action to counter the Islamist's actions.
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03/22/2004 1:07:24 PM PST
by
FreedomPoster
(This space intentionally blank)
To: Between the Lines
From the article:
Anti-immigrant far-right parties are growing all across the continent. In Austria, The Freedom Party; In Italy, the Northern League; in Switzerland, The People's Party; In France, The National Front; In Belgium, The Flemish Block; In Denmark, the People's Party, In Norway, The Progress Party.
Jean-Marie Le Pen, of France's far-right political party National Front, told CBN News that the cause of most of France's problems are immigrants from Africa and Asia, and his slogan is "France for the French." So be it. Bring on the right wingers.
Only then will there be a concerted effort to ethnically-cleanse (and I use that word with deliberate care) the nations of Europe back towards their pre-Islamic-invasion status. The far-righters are the ONLY political faction which realizes the danger at hand, and, once they assume power, are the ONLY ones who will take whatever actions necessary, including extreme ones, to reverse the situation.
Without them, the whites of Europe will collapse into continental Weimar and meekly watch as they are pushed from power and their cultures are marked for extermination, all the time fearing to fight back because of their collective "white guilt".
The Islamics who would vanquish them _have no_ guilt about their culture or race. Perhaps this is why without a bold resurgence of the right in Europe, Europeans, both as a race and a culture, may face extinction.
Regardless of what else one may think of the French at this point in history... France _is_ "for the French". As is Holland for the Dutch, Germany for the Germans, Spain for the Spaniards, and Denmark for the Danes.
Cheers!
- John
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