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Posted on 03/22/2004 7:03:40 AM PST by roses of sharon

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To: familyofman
"I would rather defend their right to say what they want."


I would think it is more your right to way what you want. Either you disagree with how 60 minutes handled the disclosure that they were owned by the parent company that also is putting out the book, and either you disagree with the soft ball questions STahl threw at Clarke or you don't. If you disagree then you should have the backbone and speak up and say why you don;t like what they did. If you disagree but don't want to call, then apathy is also a way to go. You are right--it is up to you--either stand up or shut up. I gather you prefer the latter.

101 posted on 03/22/2004 2:45:05 PM PST by olliemb
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To: smiley
Proud member of the R. A. M., the "special forces" of the VRWC
102 posted on 03/22/2004 3:10:35 PM PST by MEG33 (John Kerry's been AWOL for two decades on issues of National Security!)
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To: roses of sharon
Another # is 212-975-2006

I called and bit%&ed 'em out this morning. Told them they were fast losing credibility (if they haven't done so already), and had better be more balanced. I also referred to the book "Arrogance" by one of their esteemed FORMER journalists, Bernie Goldberg, in backing up my assertion.

103 posted on 03/22/2004 4:42:18 PM PST by ATCNavyRetiree
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To: ATCNavyRetiree
A casual friend of mine said she called CBS today, (on her own accord), because she has a neighbor in Iraq.

She told them this kind of nonsense hurts the families of the soldiers. She said it was her first time to ever call a news program.

I just cannot fathom a news org. running this kind of invective, when there is no criminal behavior on by the government, it was pure smear. And to a family such as the Bush's, who have never done anything to deserve these attacks on their humanity.

We must work and pray hard for our country.



104 posted on 03/22/2004 5:38:46 PM PST by roses of sharon
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To: familyofman
That is not the point. The disclosure should be made that 60 Minutes/Good Morning America/CBS/Viacom/Simon & Schuster- allowed for those softball questions...and a member of the Cabinet? BIG ERROR!

Disclose and present the FACTS! Ask pertinent questions..this was a very misleading report. Relationships with Kerry/Rand Beer co-professor at Harvard's Kennedy Center..need I go on?

Those are facts that should be presented. This was just an info commercial masked in the name of 60 Minutes.The American public was misled.

Regards
fight_truth_decay
105 posted on 03/22/2004 7:14:43 PM PST by fight_truth_decay
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To: Landru
Viacom's repeated effort(s) to smear our POTUS & this nation have really become tiresome...

Ain't it the truth! How much longer will we have to endure this utopian tripe? But more importantly I suppose, is why? The dedication to liberalism/mediocrity obvious in the media is but a tentacle of the beast is it not? PC mediocrity is an infection that has [been] spread throughout our culture with the complicity of an adoring media. Tiresome indeed!

...somone had better do something about those creeps.

For sure; but who? Calling on the FCC to rein in the beast is mixed bag at best. If they can do it to the utopian dreamers, they could do it to us also. I don't know my friend. Seems to me that "We The People" should be doing something to out the useful media idiots, but we can't seem to get enough folks mad enough long enough to effect the necessary changes. I'm afraid conservatives are more inclined to put up with the sniveling bastards than do anything about 'em. My fear is that too many will be too late in recognizing the depth of the damage; that PC will become too imbedded in the culture to ever effect change. FWIW.

FGS

106 posted on 03/22/2004 7:27:40 PM PST by ForGod'sSake (ABCNNBCBS: An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly.)
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To: dyno35
My wife likes to watch it. Since I am retired and she is still working, I let her have some slack of weekends as to what is watched on the tube and I go read a book.
107 posted on 03/23/2004 6:26:44 AM PST by Piquaboy
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To: ForGod'sSake; joanie-f
"How much longer will we have to endure this utopian tripe?"

Indefinitely, I'd hope.
Can't ask much more than the staus quo, y'know.

"But more importantly I suppose, is why? The dedication to liberalism/mediocrity obvious in the media is but a tentacle of the beast is it not?"

It is; but, it's one hellova big tenticle, too.
A tenticle with the allure of fame, fortune & notoriety, at that.
Such is the *carrot* the Liberal-Socialists are using to lure the young, ignorant, & power humgry.
Extremely effective * not to be underestimated, although I needn't tell you that, FGS.

"PC mediocrity is an infection that has [been] spread throughout our culture with the complicity of an adoring media. Tiresome indeed!"

True, but don't forget about acadamia's complicit role, now.
They're one in the same & what's going down would have no chance without tremendous coordination.

>...somone had better do something about those creeps.
"For sure; but who?"

Well, that's a tough one.

Let me start out by borrowing from a thread dealing with homosexuality the other day where both you & joanie wrote some very touching commentary.
So touching in fact, I couldn't find the words to respond, even though they were there, I just couldn't get a handle on 'em so said nothing.

If you read Joanie's statements, she told of a kid living with two lesbians who'd [recently] moved into her sleepy town in PA.
Her always insightful observations of this youngster, what she'd heard/witnessed, & her interaction with the boy really struck a profound chord deep within me.
Most disturbing I found when she described a 6th grade male (the kid) possessed of a very "dead spirit."
I thought to myself almost instantly, "So what kind of adult will society have in this youngster in 10 years?"

~snip~

Then there came you FGS, exclaiming "we need to do something" about the *problem*; since, it was our generation responsible for the crap we're faced with, today.
Remember?

Then came memories of my own -- albeit infrequent -- experience speaking with people I *know* attend church & consider themselves conservative and as such vote Republican; BUT, they also have a homosexual kid.

I recalled how in casual discussions with these people if I'd said anything -- no matter how slight -- against homosexuals, the homosexualy community, lifestyle -- *anything* negative -- they'd be all over me like white on rice.

See?
They were not going to let *their* kid be criticized & if it did happen they'd made up their minds they'd *show* their love & devotion to the kid, as parents, by defending their little wayward buggers.

Then it dawned on me that insodoing they infact had become passive activists -- often unbeknownst to themselves -- not unlike the white male Liberal-Socialists are always at the forefront of issues they know nothing about; but, nonetheless respond as Pavlov's Dogs to the social bell's of institutionalized "guilt," "class envy" or any other number of other *issues* they'd been conditioned for.

In short I don't know what the answer could be to the horrible situation with America's quisling mediots might be anymore than I do homosexulas, FGS.
Mainly because they are *us*, our *children* & although we'd consider 'em our "enemies" they're also one in the same with us, too.

I do know this, though.
I recall a man who once said, "Any organism at war with itself cannot survive." & he was correct.
I also firmly believe the dark forces under discussion here are aware of this fact all too well, also.

Means it's either going to be their way, or, they're fully prepared to lay the whole damned thing to waste.

"Calling on the FCC to rein in the beast is mixed bag at best."

Yea, the government's a function of *us*, my friend; so, there're rabid Liberal-Socialists & homosexuals among that body who'd subvert the vision we hold for the nation & will actively or passively resist.

"If they can do it to the utopian dreamers, they could do it to us also. I don't know my friend."

Sure you do [know], FGS.
The bib overalls I saw you wearing in your photo at "Black" are a sure indicatator of wisdom; and, I don't say that just because I love wearing the things myself, either. ;^)
We both realize should either side to ever dominate our beloved nation would eventually wind-up resembling either an Islamic Republic or a Nazi concentration camp.
At this stage of the game it's a very fine line indeed seperating the two IMO, a balancing act on the edge of a razor blade, no less.

"Seems to me that 'We The People' should be doing something to out the useful media idiots, but we can't seem to get enough folks mad enough long enough to effect the necessary changes."

People "get mad" when it conveniences them these days, FGS.
And striking a balance -- forget a perfect one -- has always been difficult (if not an impossibility) in spite of how *evolved* we like to feature ourselves, eh?

"I'm afraid conservatives are more inclined to put up with the sniveling bastards than do anything about 'em."

Yea, seems most are like that; but, then again not much short of all out fighting in the streets the alternative from my POV, too.
I don't think "our side's" anywhere near "laying the whole damned thing to waste," for our beliefs, do you?
In fact, these days it seems that unless one's a Liberal-Socialist when speaking in such terms?
They're really risking finding themselves thrown into the hoosgow, aren't they?

"My fear is that too many will be too late in recognizing the depth of the damage; that PC will become too imbedded in the culture to ever effect change."

I share your fear FGS, with only one small exception.
I happen to believe it's already too late.
The PC culture's already embedded & anyone can plainly see the fruits of Liberal-Socialist influence in every facet of our lives, today.
Personally I'm seeing 2nd, 3rd & more generations of said influence right here in the backwards place I live.

To stop it will mean a "Civil War" & a war like that will pit you & I against our neighbors and their children and very likely against our own children as sure as God made little green apples.

You'll have to forgive me, but such a scenario at this time for me?

...is simply not acceptable.

108 posted on 03/23/2004 8:13:17 AM PST by Landru (Indulgences: 2 for a buck.)
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To: roses of sharon
bttt
109 posted on 03/23/2004 5:05:30 PM PST by satchmodog9 (it's coming and if you don't get off the tracks it will run you down)
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To: roses of sharon
thanks
110 posted on 03/23/2004 7:18:56 PM PST by TheEaglehasLanded
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To: TheEaglehasLanded
Late night BUMP
111 posted on 03/23/2004 8:04:53 PM PST by JulieRNR21 (One good term deserves another! Take W-04....Across America!)
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To: Peach
I think a few members of Bush's staff have grounds to sue Clark for slander and win.
112 posted on 03/23/2004 8:26:43 PM PST by philetus (Keep doing what you always do and you'll keep getting what you always get)
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To: Landru
Wow; quite a post my friend. It deserves more attention than I have energy available this evening, er, morning. I'll follow up tomorrow. BTW, I'm glad you like the overalls; that's my dress pair ;^)

FGS

113 posted on 03/23/2004 10:44:57 PM PST by ForGod'sSake (ABCNNBCBS: An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly.)
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To: Landru; joanie-f
If you read Joanie's statements, she told of a kid living with two lesbians who'd [recently] moved into her sleepy town in PA. Her always insightful observations of this youngster, what she'd heard/witnessed, & her interaction with the boy really struck a profound chord deep within me. Most disturbing I found when she described a 6th grade male (the kid) possessed of a very "dead spirit."

Yep, I read her post with roughly the same sinking feeling you had. I suppose if one keeps in mind the machinations of evil itself, it becomes clearer what's at work here; in its simplest form, the attempted destruction of a "God fearing" culture. Nothing more; nothing less. It also helps one retain some level of sanity in an otherwise insane setting.

I thought to myself almost instantly, "So what kind of adult will society have in this youngster in 10 years?"

Uh huh; the payoff. Regarding the boy in the story joanie related, what can one say? I'd guess that on some primal level we all need a mom and dad, especially in the "formative" years, for proper emotional development. The nanny state can of course fill the void for those who were never able to develop the coping skills necessary in a "confused" world. As an aside, have you ever considered how good divorce is for business, and how utterly destructive it is on a culture/society??? Feminists untie, er, unite!

Well drat; I've got to run again. Excellent post I wish I had more time to respond to but, alas...

FGS

114 posted on 03/24/2004 8:06:33 AM PST by ForGod'sSake (ABCNNBCBS: An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly.)
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To: ForGod'sSake; joanie-f
"Yep, I read her post with roughly the same sinking feeling you had. I suppose if one keeps in mind the machinations of evil itself, it becomes clearer what's at work here..."

Precisely.

"...in its simplest form, the attempted destruction of a "God fearing" culture. Nothing more; nothing less. It also helps one retain some level of sanity in an otherwise insane setting."

Never thought about it quite like that until right now that you mention it.
I suppose there's always been a *price* attatched to [maintaining] one's sanity.
Just always thought "sanity," like "freedom" was something free with no strings.
Guess I was wrong.

>I thought to myself almost instantly, 'So what kind of adult will society have in this youngster in 10 years?'"
"Uh huh; the payoff. Regarding the boy in the story joanie related, what can one say?"

It is "the payoff," for the homosexuals; or, the mdiots extruding the Liberal-Socialist swill they dish out night after night after night.

As it turns out, this kid -- *like* the parents of the homosexual kid I spoke of -- will find his self esteem inextricably interwound in the lifestyle of the homosexual adults he grew up with as his parenental figures.
Whether he decides to emmulate their sexuality or not, he'll more than likely defend 'em quite adamently.
He'll have no real free choice, he'll do so out of his own survival instinct.

If this were the "beginning" of this kind of sociological phenomenon I'd say, "We truly don't know how this'll turn out, OR, know what impact it'll have on our culture."

But it's not new, it's been going on for at least the past 35 years & therein was my point concerning it being too late to reverse the homosexual *trend* or the situation in the lamestream media, for that matter.
The seeds planted long ago have grown to produce seeds of their own long ago.

"I'd guess that on some primal level we all need a mom and dad, especially in the 'formative' years, for proper emotional development."

Sure, for any chance to have a "normal" kid using our paradigm as a measuring stick.
But was the goal for the kid in joanie's story to be "normal"?
I think the kid's eyes as told by joan, spoke to his normalcy, or lack thereof.

Given the wide-spread acceptance *&* support of homosexuality, the situation with vulgarity on & in our various media, the horrible state of public education and virtually all other social distortions one can think of?
Are the kids of joanie's story the people making up the body politic of those movements today, now as grown ups?
I think so.

If I'm correct, than this was a well thought out plan with very predictable results.
The horse is already outa the barn, as it were.

"The nanny state can of course fill the void for those who were never able to develop the coping skills necessary in a "confused" world."

The nanny state's not going to *fill* a damned thing, they're going to do what nanny states have always done.
They'll *tell* these lost should what they should think amassing an army, of sorts.
Whether it's an army carrying weapons or one espousing a specific ideology really doesn't matter much, does it?
I mean both would have a mission with very clear goal(s) & there'd be a lot of 'em to overcome any & all resistance.

"As an aside, have you ever considered how good divorce is for business, and how utterly destructive it is on a culture/society???"

Sure, as a kid from a broken home I can bear witness first hand; however, I (& many others of my generation) didn't turn out too bad in spite of the setback.
But what we're all seeing today, misfits the result of broken families -- if in fact there ever was any semblence of a family unit -- are a manifestation of the last 30-35 years, I believe.

So there was "divorce" & then there is "divorce" now, the end result of the two sharing few similarities.

"Well drat; I've got to run again."

Be glad a man of your years can run, FBD. :o)
(I know-I know, I should talk...{g})

"Excellent post I wish I had more time to respond to but, alas..."

You did just fine. ;^)

...I'm heading outside (to the garden) right now, myself.

115 posted on 03/24/2004 11:48:11 AM PST by Landru (Indulgences: 2 for a buck.)
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To: roses of sharon
The Presdential television debates are on the horizon, and we must be diligent in making sure CNN, ABC, NBC, CBS, CNNBC,etc. do not give Kerry a bigger part of the t.v. screen, than Bush. I remember somthing about them doing that in the past...shortchanging the Republican candidate out of equal t.v. screen coverage during a debate.
116 posted on 04/11/2004 10:36:43 AM PDT by timestax
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