Mansoor Ijaz slamming Richard Clarke on Fox'N Friends

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[Eva]

I have been posting this theory for a week and thought that no one was paying attention, that is until Howlin asked me to post it on another thread.

My theory on Clarke is that he could not publish or otherwise publicly distribute any truth about the classified war on terror without being arrested. What he can publish are lies and distortions. This was a technique used often by the Clinton administration during the impeachment investigation because the truth was sealed behind a secrecy order. In this case the administration would be unable to publicly refute the charges, just as Star and his aides were forbidden to refute the democrat charges under the Clinton administration. The only place that the administration can refute the charges is before the committe, which they have declined to do, for fear of having their own words twisted against them. Even if the Bush administration officials did refute the Democrat claims, it would not make the press.

[an amused spectator]

Just watched David Gergen (US News & World Report, PBS, http://www.pbs.org/newshour/ww/gergen.html) out himself over the kerfluffle. (FOXNews)

Gergen had the DNC fax talking points down pat: 'Clarke is politically neutral'.

[mewzilla]

There goes what was left of Gergen's reputation.

[an amused spectator]

My theory on Clarke is that he could not publish or otherwise publicly distribute any truth about the classified war on terror without being arrested. What he can publish are lies and distortions. This was a technique used often by the Clinton administration during the impeachment investigation because the truth was sealed behind a secrecy order.

Wonder if there were any phone calls from Clarke's digs to The Squid in England, for pointers? ;-)

[mewzilla]

You know what gets me, the rank stupidity of these people. What, they thought no-one would notice the 180 Clarke takes from Miniter's book? That Viacom is publishing this book? That Viacom's run by an FOB? I just wish the rest of the country's enemies were this terminally dumb.

[Criminal Number 18F]

Anybody have an Ijaz bio? Is he a citizen? I'm curious because that photo shows him with a mustache trimmed to military regulations. It's so dumb looking I never knew anyone who was not in the military to do it.

Wonder if he has joined a Guard or Reserve unit.

d.o.l.

Criminal Number 18F

[twigs]

I'm not sure it's quite that simple, although you raise good questions. Ijaz was raised in Blackburg, VA and went to UVA, where he was educated as a physicist, I believe. That's why he has a southern accent. I'm from that area and that school, so I have no problem seeing where he might get conservative leanings. Yes, he is a Muslim and a Democrat, but from everything I've seen, he's a highly intelligent and reasonable individual. His father, now deceased, was also a scientist, I believe, but suggested to Mansoor that he go into investments. IIRC, the family experienced some financial problems and the dad did not want his son to do the same. I'll have to look that up.

I've never seen anything to suggest to me that Ijaz and Woolsey are laundering money. That's a serious charge to make on a public forum. Their partnership is perhaps not the usual one, but I don't know enough of their history to understand how it began. I think it would benefit us as we evaluate all the information we get to keep it in mind, but I don't think it's necessarily inconsistent with America's interests. But I don't know enough of the story to really know. I would hope that FNC, which relies so heavily on Ijaz's info, have investigated his credibility.

[JLAGRAYFOX]

Folks, fear not! Richard Clarke, like Paul O'Neil is dead on arrival! Oh, his book may do well because the DNC will make certain it gets scooped up by the retard group, but no one of any realistic consequence will read a word. Any objective American with half a brain knows that Bill Clinton and the Democrat "traitor" Party were directly responsible for allowing 911 to occur! Enjoy your fifteen minutes of fame, Mr. Clarke!

[JLAGRAYFOX]

Folks, fear not! Richard Clarke, like Paul O'Neil is dead on arrival! Oh, his book may do well because the DNC will make certain it gets scooped up by the retard group, but no one of any realistic consequence will read a word. Any objective American with half a brain knows that Bill Clinton and the Democrat "traitor" Party were directly responsible for allowing 911 to occur! Enjoy your fifteen minutes of fame, Mr. Clarke!

[Enduring Freedom]

Some said Clarke's just looking to sell more copies of his book and/or possibly hoping for a job with Kerry or a future Democratic president.

"He probably thinks that the Democrats have a chance this time and so he's trying to suck around for another job," Alexander Haig (search), former secretary of state under President Reagan, told Fox News on Monday.

"This is an outrage to claim President Bush is responsible for nine years of total incompetence in confronting international terrorism that he [Clarke] was a part of," especially when "the Clinton administration did nothing but warn, warn, warn and throw a few rockets" at terrorists.

Bush, however, "has a firm grasp on the global threat that is confronting the United States, the free world and nations that believe in the rule of law," Haig continued

[Criminal Number 18F]

Ijaz is of Pakistani descent, but he is not an immigrant. He was born in the US.

Thanks for that information.

d.o.l.

Criminal Number 18F

[Britton J Wingfield]

Clarke was never cabinet-level in the first place, according to NRO

[mewzilla]

Well, his post wasn't in the Cabinet, but the post of counter-terrorism czar is cabinet level.

[twigs]

What if...they not only encouraged the 911 terrorist attack, but also put evidence (and people) in place that would make Bush look bad when he took action?

I don't think that even the evil Clintons would have done that. But there are some facts about the end of their administration that make me wonder about how much they knew. My gut level feeling is that they knew something was up but they didn't know exactly what. Bill signed that EO putting Mad Albight in charge of domestic terrorism efforts which went into effect Oct. 1 before the election, IIRC. I've always been suspicious about that order and I still think it's evidence that he knew something was up. I also think that one of the reason's Hill had that poisoned look on her face during Pres. Bush's address to the joint congress after the attack was that she expected whatever was coming to help her husband, but instead, it gave a new meaning and definition to Pres. Bush's presidency.

[texasflower]

pit bull

[alrea]

Can anyone get a site or full quote where Izaz stated on Fox & Friend that Clarke twice stopped or vetoed efforts to get Bin Laden?

[texasflower]

I have Sammon's book. No mention of Clarke in there either.

[twigs]

I didn't see it, so I don't know where it might be. But I've been hearing Ijaz say for years that he tried to help the Clinton Adm get UBL and he was dismissed. As far as I know, this is the first time he's named Clarke. My guess is that he was not naming names as a courtesy, then this guy comes up and writes this book which is one lie after another.

I would like to know why he writes it now. Obviously it's for the Clintons, but why?

[philosofy123]

As a physist myself, and an investor, I am sure I can have all the access to CIA information, and even the hire the ex-CIA director to work for me!

All I know is the dude comes out with information that are hard for any reporter to get. If he has a backdoor to the CIA, I have never found our government rebuking him for talking too much about top secret stuff.

What trigerred my curiousity is the name of the investment company, which illustrates its Islamic background to attract the money from the Saudis, and Kuwaitis? Do you suppose all these thousands of Mosques in the US get built by US money?

[an amused spectator]

There goes what was left of Gergen's reputation.

You have to wonder if there may have been a little sugar in it for Gergen (stock options, friends calling in favors, etc.):

NEWS FOR SALE: CBS PUSHED BOOK IT OWNS