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1 posted on 03/21/2004 9:52:32 AM PST by sonsofliberty2000
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Well, they may have them now but they didn't on September 11, 2001 or they would have used them.
2 posted on 03/21/2004 9:55:20 AM PST by FReepaholic (Never Forget: www.september-11-videos.com)
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To: sonsofliberty2000
If they had 'em, they would have used 'em.
3 posted on 03/21/2004 9:56:29 AM PST by brooklin
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This reminds me of the old joke: "The Soviets have a nuclear bomb capable of being fitted into a suitcase. But first, they have to find someone to make the suitcase for them."
4 posted on 03/21/2004 9:56:40 AM PST by xJones
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I own the Brooklyn Bridge.
5 posted on 03/21/2004 9:57:39 AM PST by Dog Gone
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"smart briefcase bombs"

I'm sorry Achmed, I'm afraid I can't do that.

8 posted on 03/21/2004 9:59:42 AM PST by palmer (Solutions, not just slogans -JFKerry)
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Bring it on.
9 posted on 03/21/2004 10:00:39 AM PST by Sloth (We cannot defeat foreign enemies of the Constitution if we yield to the domestic ones.)
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Al-Zawahri — an Egyptian surgeon — is believed to be hiding in the rugged region around the Pakistan-Afghan border where U.S. and Pakistani troops are conducting a major operation against Taliban and al-Qaida forces at room temperature.
11 posted on 03/21/2004 10:02:49 AM PST by Thinkin' Gal
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12 posted on 03/21/2004 10:03:36 AM PST by The Mayor (Instead of grumbling because you don't get what you want, be thankful you don't get what you deserve)
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If they use one, mecca will be the next crater.
13 posted on 03/21/2004 10:04:55 AM PST by whereasandsoforth (tagged for migratory purposes only)
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I can think of three reasons why this report is false.
  1. The US has been the world leader in warhead miniaturization for fifty years, and the smallest American Atomic Demolition Munition would not fit in a briefcase or even a suitcase. (This particular device was discontinued by the USA in the mid-1980s and all were dismantled).

  2. If al-Qaeda has had such a weapon, they have shown uncharacteristic restraint in not employing it. That makes no sense. If Zawahiri got his grubby, goat-caressing hands on a nuke. it would be hotter than hot and every day they held it in inventory would be a very great risk of losing it. They would lose no time in employing this weapon. That they haven't is to me conclusive proof that they don't have such a weapon.

  3. Such reports always suggest that the weapons are ex-Soviet in origin. Sometimes authors point to Russian and former Soviet republics' abandonment of nuclear delivery systems such as subs and bombers as proof of poor inventory control of these weapons. But the warheads were never handled by the military: they were under the control of the KGB. That organization came through both Russia's democratic revolution and the ongoing totalitarian counterrevolution of Putin without significant disruption.

I don't know that Mr Hamid Mir is necessarily spinning here. I think that he has been spun by al-Z. But, of course, both of them stand to gain by this report.

d.o.l.

Criminal Number 18F

14 posted on 03/21/2004 10:07:43 AM PST by Criminal Number 18F
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Logic suggests if Al Qaeda actually had a nuke that fact would be their most closely guarded secret.
However if they had failed to purchase a nuke boasting of having one would be a cheap and simple way to spread terror.
17 posted on 03/21/2004 10:09:40 AM PST by doug9732
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"al-Qaida No. 2: We Have Briefcase Nukes"

And I have an enchanted jockstrap.
18 posted on 03/21/2004 10:10:23 AM PST by CzarNicky (The problem with bad ideas is that they seemed like good ideas at the time.)
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I can imagine the Russian mafia counting their money and telling these raghead morons that it's a "smart" suitcase bomb. Yeah, that's the ticket! It's a "smart" suitcase bomb!
19 posted on 03/21/2004 10:13:17 AM PST by AF68
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I know nothing about weapons systems.

What is a "smart" breifcase nuke? Set aside the issue of whether or not they're small enough to be briefcase vs. suitcase. Set aside the issue of maintenance needed. What does the descriptor "smart" mean relative to nukes?
20 posted on 03/21/2004 10:13:59 AM PST by not_apathetic_anymore
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*BUMP*!
21 posted on 03/21/2004 10:23:01 AM PST by ex-Texan
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The old saying, "buying a pig in a poke" comes to mind.

I sure al-Qaida has spent millions on purchasing nuclear suitcase bombs.


Very expensive FAKE nuclear devices.

It's not exactly a product one can "field test."

And the Black Market ain't much on One Year Warrantees
24 posted on 03/21/2004 10:26:22 AM PST by RedMonqey (Its is dangerous to be right when your government is wrong)
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If true, I would have thought that the Chetchens(sic) would have leveled Moscow by now.
39 posted on 03/21/2004 10:58:44 AM PST by Bommer (John Kerry = War Criminal!)
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Hard to use them when your dead!!!
47 posted on 03/21/2004 11:03:33 AM PST by Andy from Beaverton (I only vote Republican to stop the Democrats)
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I'm sure the Soviets made "suitcase" bombs, but they're probably large and very, very heavy (about 200-300#) The US did make "backpack" bombs in the '60s and '70s for tactical use in Europe in the event of a Soviet invasion.

To put some minds at ease, it would be next to impossible to get a nuke near a population center in the US. Of note, a man in New York City who was picked up multiple times by the subway cops. He was 50-something, white and had no links to terrorists. He was, however, undergoing radiation therapy. That's how sensitive our stuff is. And I'm sure some old Soviet POS leaks like a sieve.

That really leaves the only way to get a nuke to the US by ship, which is relatively unchecked. For some reason the administration keeps telling us this, but they don't increase funding for the Coast Guard to do something about it. It would be a shame if downtown Long Beach or Savannah got vaporized because we didn't give those guys enough money.
48 posted on 03/21/2004 11:05:37 AM PST by oldleft
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bump
51 posted on 03/21/2004 11:12:44 AM PST by VOA
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