Kerry hedges on 1971 KC meeting [for assassination plot]

Knight Ridder ^ | March 19, 2004 | SCOTT CANON

[Sabertooth]

Historical footnote........historical footnote?

You have to be kidding me, a historical footnote is President Washington having wooden teeth!

I thought a Historical footnote was Thomas Jefferson soaking his in a tub of ice water every morning.

[jwalsh07]

Hillary is in the on deck circle. Presumably, Bush/Cheney has a plan for dealing with the Torricelli Gambit.

[reg45]

Someone has raised the interesting possibility that Kerry was an FBI informer while a member of the VVAV.

Yeah right! And Josef Stalin was an undercover agent for the Okhrana.

[Torie]

Of course it was tampering. In politics some will do anything that won't land them in jail if caught, and sometimes even if it would.

[rwfromkansas]

interesting that Musgrave got a call from a Kerry lackey

[rwfromkansas]

Did the group other discuss violence or try to do things? I will have to research the Gainesville 8.

The mainstream spin is that VVAW was a very level-headed group and nobody took this plot seriously blah blah blah.

[Hon]

"Did the group other discuss violence or try to do things? I will have to research the Gainesville 8.

The mainstream spin is that VVAW was a very level-headed group and nobody took this plot seriously blah blah blah."

The VVAW went on to take over the Statue Of Liberty (twice). They issued demands--such as having their agit-prop broadcast over Armed Forces Radio and appear in Stars & Stripes. They took over the Betsy Ross house. Camil wanted to demolish it. Camil wanted to knock William Penn off of the City Hall building.

And, as you mention, Camil and the VVAW planned and tried to carry out the real disruption of the GOP convention. They were stopped before they could carry out their plans--which resulted in the trial of the Gainesville 8. They got off, but they were almost certainly guilty.

IRC, in the last four months of 1971, something like 500 of the VVAW members were arrested. (They only numbered about 1200.) These were for the most part thugs who were using their war protesting as an excuse to act out against the world.

Camil, for instance, was in trouble with the law before he went into the Marines. (He enlisted to avoide being sent to jail.) And he had many scrapes when he got back from VN. He was busted for cocaine--and even shot by a fed--he claims.

[PhilDragoo]

Last week, John Hurley, an organizer of veteran volunteers for Kerry's presidential run, called two men who were quoted in The Star as recalling Kerry attending the Kansas City meeting. John Musgrave of Baldwin City, Kan., said Hurley called him twice and in the second conversation asked the disabled veteran to contact the newspaper reporter to say he had doubts about the memory.

"He said, `I'd like you to consider that before that article comes out call him and tell him you were wrong,' " said Musgrave, who has expressed disappointment with Kerry's position on issues regarding prisoners of war.

Hurley said Friday he believed last week Musgrave was simply mistaken.

"I asked him to be very sure of his recollection, not to change his recollection," Hurley said. "I would apologize to John Musgrave if he thought in any way I was pressuring him."

Another veteran, Randy Barnes of Kansas City, said Hurley had contacted him but did not prompt him to question his memory, although his certainty about the fact wavered after their conversation.

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traitorrapist42 advised Gennifer Flowers to deny--why, we have that on tape.

Now comes the Kerry-lackey counseling the witnesses to re-remember, and this time, correctly, damn it.

Gee, and the candidate himself doesn't remember--

--is it the marijuana, Senator?

And what of the Boston Globe identifying you January 24, 1973 as "head of the Vietnam Veterans Against the War"--

Who are we to believe, Senator, you or our lying eyes?

Of course, the Boston Globe is part of the Republican attack machine.

Ah! It's not our business, it's yours.

And. . .you voted for the assassinations before you voted against them.

[rwfromkansas]

wow. That is something.

[onyx]

All good points Phil.
BUMP

[MeekOneGOP]

Gee, and the candidate himself doesn't remember--
--is it the marijuana, Senator?

Earlier, Connelly wrote, when Yarrow sang “Puff the Magic Dragon”
at an event in a private home in Ames, Iowa, “Kerry lifted his
fingers to his mouth for a quick toke on an imaginary joint.
You can almost see his thick mane of silver hair returning to the
shaggy brown do of those days.”

John Kerry: Stuck in a Vietnam-era time warp
(Click here or on the pic to read the entire article)

[ironman]

CNN has picked up this story. Just saw it run.

[doug from upland]

Did they run the David Wade spin?