[CrucifiedTruth]

Instead of trumpeting fuzzy slogans, please, read what I said again. It's got a lot of real value in it. I repeat it here for your convinience.

The Soviet Union failed because it developed only national defense and for consumer goods relied largely on imports. They could not develop any other industries because automation was a big NO-NO. See, the worker class was the source of political power. Stagnating consumer industries and suppressed innovation led to the fallout. But we are seeing the same here. Manufacturing feeds engineering with problems and money, that is what fuels science in turn. The US is starting to look quite like the SU before the fallout - an eroded manufacturing base with engineering and science employed only by the military.

[Luis Gonzalez]

Our problem is that technological advances and innovation are increasing our productivity to a point where less people can accomplish more in less time.

We have led the world ion innovations, so I don't see where you get this idea that we are stagnant, we created and drove the technology boom just this past decade.

"...an eroded manufacturing base..."

We are seeing increases in industrial productivity not seen since the late 40's.

Don't let the facts get in your way here.