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To: SauronOfMordor
most infidels will take the pronouncement of Islamic "authorities" at face value, and not check the facts for themselves

Guilty...

My assumption was that Islam was a religion of peace with a slightly bloody side to it... just like Christianity.

Although....I've wondered since 9/11 why there was no outcry from the muslim/Islamic membership around the world regarding the bombing of the twin towers. And nothing since from the muslim brotherhood calling on their fundamentalist terrorist brethren to stop their atrocities. Rather...their responses seem to be vaguely defensive or there is silence.

a Muslim MAY NOT take the side of an infidel against a fellow Muslim, or betray a fellow Muslim to infidel police

Now I have an idea why.

The cause. As a youngin... I remember the threat of communism very well. The notion that communist spys could be anywhere... and that they wouldn't stop until our western culture was assimilated and we all would be struggling under the hammer and sickle or that our countries would be laid waste with a blanket of atom bombs...

But the commies were all kept together... over there... (other than the "spys") cause our western culture wouldn't tolerate them in our midst.

In my mind now... I see Islamic followers where I buy groceries... living down the block... buying property, building temples... gathering...

Insidious comes to mind..

Hmmm...

I also see them in different countries fighting for the acceptance of their religious differences ... and I think this is causing more of the "McDonald grade" muslims to become more polarized.

So..what do you think is ahead? A thousand years of Islamic terrorism? Or will the infidel world get fed up.. rise up.. and squash them?
16 posted on 03/20/2004 9:18:17 AM PST by bikewench
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To: bikewench
I also see them in different countries fighting for the acceptance of their religious differences ... and I think this is causing more of the "McDonald grade" muslims to become more polarized.

You see this in many places around the world. In any place where Muslims are a tiny minority (less than 10%), they argue "tolerance" and "religious freedom", and view any attempt to control violent Islam as "oppression"

The next stage seems to go from when they're around 10% of the population to 50% of the population, and have achieved majority status in certain localities. Then they start demanding things, and threaten to riot if anybody "disrespects" Islam. An example of this is Nigeria, which is 50% Muslim.

At the stage where they have achieved majority status, the gloves come off. In Sudan, which is 70% Muslim, the northern Muslims attack and enslave the southern Christians. In any land where Muslims are the political majority, Sharia (Islamic) law is made the law of the land, non-Muslims lose their civil rights, and life becomes hard for anybody not a Muslim.

So..what do you think is ahead? A thousand years of Islamic terrorism? Or will the infidel world get fed up.. rise up.. and squash them?

The main thing propping up radical Islam is Saudi Arabian oil money. The Saudis finance madrassas around the world. A madrassa is an Islamic religious school where the only subject students are taught is radical Islam. Since since madrassa students get free room and board, paid by Saudi oil money, getting into one is quite popular in poor countries

The main defect of Islam is that it is an unproductive culture. Actual work and hustle are not esteemed in Islam. Look at the economies of any Muslim nation that is not subsidized by oil deposits -- very unimpressive.

Islam's "Golden Age" occurred during it's period of expansion, 8th Century to 14th Century. As long as there was a steady stream of conquests providing an inflow of loot and slaves who knew how to run a civilization, Islam prospered. When Islam's expansion started getting rolled back in Western Europe (with the Spanish expulsion of the Muslims from Spain in the 15th Century) and the halt of Islamic expansion in Eastern Europe (most decisively at the Battle of Vienna in 1683, Islamic society went into decline.

The decline was accelerated in the 18th and 19th Century when the US Navy started getting active in fighting Muslim pirates in the Mediterranean (Piracy and slave-raiding, including raiding Europe for slaves, were major sources of income to Islam), Islam pretty much collapsed until oil was discovered in the Middle East.

18 posted on 03/20/2004 3:23:39 PM PST by SauronOfMordor (That which does not kill me had better be able to run away damn fast.)
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