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To: dangus
Actually, I have been studying Biblical Hebrew and Greek for over thirty years and pretty well have some idea of the words' meanings. If you're referring to "Yahweh," which was re-worded into 'Adonai, you'll never once find the expression "My Yahweh" in all the books of the OT.

On the other hand, the word "Lord" (Hebrew or Greek) is used alike of humans and God, very frequently in both cases.

If it had a mother, it isn't God, can't be God. Mary is not the mother of Jesus' Deity.

Dan
86 posted on 03/19/2004 11:35:46 AM PST by BibChr ("...behold, they have rejected the word of the LORD, so what wisdom is in them?" [Jer. 8:9])
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To: BibChr
>>On the other hand, the word "Lord" (Hebrew or Greek) is used alike of humans and God, very frequently in both cases. <<

Yes, but the infant Jesus was not Elizabeth's Lord in an eartly way. By earthly ways, Jesus was a fetus swelling within the body of a lowly woman. She can ONLY have meant it in the divine way. Of course I said that already, you simply chose to ignore it.

>>If it had a mother, it isn't God, can't be God. Mary is not the mother of Jesus' Deity. <<

That's the Jewish argument for why Jesus cannot be God.
95 posted on 03/19/2004 11:56:28 AM PST by dangus
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To: BibChr
If it had a mother, it isn't God, can't be God. Mary is not the mother of Jesus' Deity.

Your statement is very close to the ancient Nestorianism heresy. You are separating Jesus' human and divine natures; where Nestorius a Syrian monk, taught that Jesus is two distinct persons. Nestorius held that Mary was the mother of Christ only in respect to His humanity. One inherent danger in separating Christ into two persons is the threat to atonement. Which one died on the cross? If it was the "human person", the atonement is not of divine quality and thereby insufficient to cleanse us of our sins.

The Council of Ephesus convened in 431 to address the issue and pronounced that Jesus was one person in two distinct and inseparable natures: divine and human. The Council concluded that Mary can be properly referred to as the Mother of God, not in the sense that she is older than God or the source of God, but in the sense that the person she carried in her womb was, in fact, God incarnate ("in the flesh").

This is still the Christian teaching.

143 posted on 03/19/2004 1:18:00 PM PST by tekriter
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