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To: Petronski
What? What are you smoking? Your church claims that the term pope existed all the way back to Peter. It didn't. The term wasn't defined nor did the office exist until Rome defrauded the world via isidore and Gratian. There wasn't a line of popes until it was invented for the claim. After it was invented, there is no agreement on who was pope when or for how long in many instances because there is either little evidence or none. I have copies of the official Papal deeds - 12 of them. All 12 of them are different. You have people on the list that you call antipopes. In other words, you say satan infallibly led the church - that's the shorthand. So because a man of the devil infallibly led as it were, that's an unbroken chain. Who are you trying to shine on? The first actual pope didn't come about by title or definition of office for most of a millenium. The title was backward applied inventively to establish an appearance that is belied by actual history.
In otherwords, sell your story walking. I've researched the matter - female pope and all.
589 posted on 03/20/2004 5:17:04 PM PST by Havoc ("The line must be drawn here. This far and no further!")
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To: Havoc
Your church claims that the term pope existed all the way back to Peter.

Can you document that?

The office, the role extends back to Peter. There is an unending chain of vicars. But where is it claimed that the 'term' pope existed back to Peter?

In other words, you say satan infallibly led the church - that's the shorthand.

That's YOUR shorthand. But then again, you're abusing/stretching/changing the definition of 'infallibility.'

591 posted on 03/20/2004 5:23:08 PM PST by Petronski (Kerry knew...and did nothing. THAT....is weakness.)
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To: Petronski
Havoc writes:

I've researched the matter - female pope and all.

But there rarely seems to be documentation and citations to back up what Havoc claims. Even look at the comments attributed to the Pope on Mary and salvation. The best we get is something along the lines of "I heard it on a tape". Pretty convincing...

806 posted on 03/22/2004 5:51:23 AM PST by Fury
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