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To: Bob Eimiller
1) "Just wanted to explain the Catholic HAIL MARY...
The second half is a petition to MARY (Blessed among ALL women)..to pray for us sinners NOW and at the hour of our death hmmm I can't think of a better saint to pray for me at my death.."
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I see no scripture that says that saints not on this earth intercede on our behalf. While I think Mary WAS one of the greatest women who ever lived, if I were to chose a "not present saint" to pray for me it would be John the Baptist:

Matthew 11:11 - Truly, I say to you, among those born of women there has risen no one greater than John the Baptist; yet he who is least in the kingdom of heaven is greater than he.

But for Interceding Prayer, I ask my closeth Believer friends and Pastor who are still walking around in flesh and bone to pray for me.
In the meantime I pray directly to Jesus Christ! __________________________________________

2) "Everything you believe seems to be based on TIME..."

My belief has nothing to with "TIME". Jesus Christ + nothing else is my belief --- that the atoning death of Jesus on the Cross gives me Eternal Salvation. Mary, John the Baptist, Abraham, Moses, Paul, ets, are all good folks but "yet he who is least in the kingdom of heaven is greater than he (them)".
442 posted on 03/20/2004 7:27:56 AM PST by TRY ONE (NUKE the unborn gay whales!)
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To: TRY ONE
You still don't get it... but we are all children of God and Jesus said believe as little children...hmmm I guess only the scholarly, who have the intelligence and a lock on the intent of scripture will inherit the Kingdom of God.

Ever wonder why Jesus spoke in parables? I don't think the parsing of words is God's intent.

After you complete your quest to figure out the mind of God, make sure you explain everything to all of us who are incapable of experiencing any kind of revelation from the Holy Spirit. I suppose the Church for the first 30 years between the Ascension of Jesus and the first book of the New Testament was totally devoid of any intelligent worship.

I also suspect that Paul's Epistles were published immediately for scholarly discourse and interpretation... Hmmm come to think of it...wasn't it the 16th century when the printing press was invented? I wonder what happened to all those poor souls that were just plain dumb and all wrong about their faith for 1600 years..hmmmm

Thank goodness for all the smart God experts like you that we have today.

444 posted on 03/20/2004 8:13:52 AM PST by Bob Eimiller (Kennedy..Kerry..Leahy...Pelosi..Kucinich.."Catholics" who Promote Partial Birth Abortion.)
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