To: Havoc
So you don't know what venial sin is. I suspected as much.
1,190 posted on
03/22/2004 11:49:33 PM PST by
Petronski
(Kerry knew...and did nothing. THAT....is weakness.)
To: Petronski
The Bible teaches that the spiritual consequence of every sin is the death penaity, eternal separation from God in the Lake of Fire (Revelation 20:14-15); "The soul who sins will die," (Ezekiel 18:4); "The wages of sin is death" (Romans 6:23).
This is not to say that every sin is equally wicked ot God. Scripture teaches that some sins are more evil than others and will be juged accordingly (John 19:11; Matthew 10:15). Jesus taught that there will be degrees of eternal punishment in hell (Luke 12:47-48).,
Nonetheless, the Lord never distinguished between sins in terms of their ultimate penalty. Jesus taught that every sin warrants eternal punishment in hell. He taught that the sin of anger brings the same punisghment as the sin of murder (Matthew 5:21-22), and the sin of lust the same penalty as the sin of adultery (Matthew 5:27-30).
Roman Catholicism, on the other hand, teaches that some sins are "light sins," minor infractions of the moral laws of God . Telling a small lie or stealing something inexpensive is somehow different from tellnig a big lie or committing grand theft. Small sins, venial sins, do not bring eternal punishment.
They teache that not even the regular practice of venial sins warrants eternal punishment. A baptized Catholic who does not commit a mortal sin remains in a state of grace even if he is habitually guilty of a multitude of venial sins.
To: Petronski
No, I'm fully aware of Catholicism's redefinition of Venial and Mortal sins. Unfortunately, scripture says quite another thing. It is written:
Matthew 12:31 Wherefore I say unto you, All manner of sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven unto men: but the blasphemy [against] the [Holy] Ghost shall not be forgiven unto men
Romans 6:23 For the wages of sin [is] death; but the gift of God [is] eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.
James 2:10 For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one [point], he is guilty of all.
Romans 6 says the wages of sin is death - that is all sin just as James 2 states - if you offend on one part of the law you offend on all. It's all the same. The only difference listed under Grace (which we are now under) is the sin of blaspheming the Holy Spirit. It isn't different, it just isn't forgiveable. That is what scripture states. As I said, you guys have a whole different system of sin that is found nowhere in the NT. It is rather more similar to the definition from the Law wherein there were sins that were unto physical death (ie homosexuality, necromancy, etc.) and Sins that were not unto death (not resting on the sabbath). That went away with the law. We are not under the law. As Christians, we have never been under the law. And therein is the error.
Sorry, but the Apostles address this plainly.
1,193 posted on
03/23/2004 12:11:07 AM PST by
Havoc
("The line must be drawn here. This far and no further!")
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