1 posted on
03/19/2004 7:04:36 AM PST by
SJackson
To: SJackson
We have thousands of 113 APCs parked at military depots in the US and in Europe. Why haven't some of these been sent to Iraq and Afghanistan? They are not as armored as the Bradley, but better than the Humvee.
2 posted on
03/19/2004 7:13:29 AM PST by
RicocheT
To: SJackson
Weird, huh? Every 'Modern Soldier' show on History Channel or Discovery seems to obsess with how soldiers will definitely be engaged in urban battles, and they always show they guys storming houses, close in, etc etc.
It doesn't have to be a tank, and I wouldn't expect it to hold up to .50 cal armor piercing rounds, but wouldn't a cheapo solution be to surround the drivers compartment with a U-shaped "bathtub" of armor steel a la A-10 airplane at the expense of maybe 500 lbs?
To: SJackson
"...the service also has tended to overlook simple, low-cost innovations that often count for much more on the battlefield."
They should remember their military history.
"[The] equipment...among the most vital to our success in Africa and Europe were the bulldozer, the jeep, the 2 1/2 ton truck, and the C-47 airplane. Curiously enough, none of these is designed for combat."
--Gen. Dwight D. Eisenhower
6 posted on
03/19/2004 8:23:40 AM PST by
omega4412
To: SJackson
"Getting the Army to support the armored Humvee was like pushing a limp rope up a hill," says Jim Mills, a retired colonel who was a senior manager on the program for several years in the late 1990s.The Clinton f-ups strike again!
8 posted on
03/19/2004 9:04:06 AM PST by
expatpat
To: centurion316
ping
To: Cannoneer No. 4; Poohbah
Ping
11 posted on
03/19/2004 11:22:37 AM PST by
Paul Ross
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ping
13 posted on
03/19/2004 1:05:24 PM PST by
Cannoneer No. 4
(I always thought the Yankees had something to do with it.)
To: SJackson
BTTT
80 posted on
03/21/2004 7:04:53 AM PST by
Fiddlstix
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To: SJackson
As advanced as we are, wouldn't you think we could develop something stronger than steel but lighter?
85 posted on
03/21/2004 5:57:22 PM PST by
McGavin999
(Evil thrives when good men do nothing!)
To: SJackson
I am at work right now but tomorrow I will bring in and post a picture showing the difference and the survivability of one Up-armor and one that is not. They were parked side by side when this ASP went up. I am very impressed with them and would gladly go to war in one (vice what I had).
Be safe
102 posted on
05/24/2004 3:48:46 PM PDT by
USMCEODGUY
(Mad as hell)
To: SJackson; RicocheT; VaBthang4; PsyOp; JasonC; Ragtime Cowgirl; Squantos
Check these out, what one would you want to be in? The extra armor doesn't effect the trucks that much, these trucks are rated at over 2 tons! Cheaper then armor, faster to produce and not as maintenance intensive. Give me the armor and the mobility. Are we going to send everyone to school to teach them to drive tracks?
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