But, I guess I could offer Western Europe as an example.
Western Europe is a great example of a decayed and decadent libertine failure. You may embrace the eruoweenies, I emrace the values of Western Civilization that they have abandoned. If your definition of 'freedom' revolves around "more relaxed views on sex and drugs", I can only offer you my condolences and prayers.
That may be so, but does that mean they are not free compared to the rest of the world? That was the point of discussion, if I recall correctly.
You may embrace the eruoweenies, I emrace the values of Western Civilization that they have abandoned. If your definition of 'freedom' revolves around "more relaxed views on sex and drugs", I can only offer you my condolences and prayers.
I do not embrace Europeans; I simply provided them as an example that freedom does not require enforcement of Judeo-Christian morality. Likewise, I do not define freedom based on "more relaxed views on sex and drugs." That phrase was referring to the moral position of Europe, not their freedom.