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Iranian Alert -- March 18, 2004 [EST]-- IRAN LIVE THREAD -- Americans for Regime Change in Iran
The Iranian Student Movement Up To The Minute Reports ^
| 3.18.2004
| DoctorZin
Posted on 03/17/2004 11:48:33 PM PST by DoctorZIn
The US media almost entirely ignores news regarding the Islamic Republic of Iran. As Tony Snow of the Fox News Network has put it, this is probably the most under-reported news story of the year. But most Americans are unaware that the Islamic Republic of Iran is NOT supported by the masses of Iranians today. Modern Iranians are among the most pro-American in the Middle East.
There is a popular revolt against the Iranian regime brewing in Iran today. Starting June 10th of this year, Iranians have begun taking to the streets to express their desire for a regime change. Most want to replace the regime with a secular democracy. Many even want the US to over throw their government.
The regime is working hard to keep the news about the protest movement in Iran from being reported. Unfortunately, the regime has successfully prohibited western news reporters from covering the demonstrations. The voices of discontent within Iran are sometime murdered, more often imprisoned. Still the people continue to take to the streets to demonstrate against the regime.
In support of this revolt, Iranians in America have been broadcasting news stories by satellite into Iran. This 21st century news link has greatly encouraged these protests. The regime has been attempting to jam the signals, and locate the satellite dishes. Still the people violate the law and listen to these broadcasts. Iranians also use the Internet and the regime attempts to block their access to news against the regime. In spite of this, many Iranians inside of Iran read these posts daily to keep informed of the events in their own country.
This daily thread contains nearly all of the English news reports on Iran. It is thorough. If you follow this thread you will witness, I believe, the transformation of a nation. This daily thread provides a central place where those interested in the events in Iran can find the best news and commentary. The news stories and commentary will from time to time include material from the regime itself. But if you read the post you will discover for yourself, the real story of what is occurring in Iran and its effects on the war on terror.
I am not of Iranian heritage. I am an American committed to supporting the efforts of those in Iran seeking to replace their government with a secular democracy. I am in contact with leaders of the Iranian community here in the United States and in Iran itself.
If you read the daily posts you will gain a better understanding of the US war on terrorism, the Middle East and why we need to support a change of regime in Iran. Feel free to ask your questions and post news stories you discover in the weeks to come.
If all goes well Iran will be free soon and I am convinced become a major ally in the war on terrorism. The regime will fall. Iran will be free. It is just a matter of time.
DoctorZin
TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: iaea; iran; iranianalert; iranquake; protests; southasia; studentmovement; studentprotest
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posted on
03/17/2004 11:48:35 PM PST
by
DoctorZIn
To: Pan_Yans Wife; fat city; freedom44; Tamsey; Grampa Dave; PhiKapMom; McGavin999; Hinoki Cypress; ...
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posted on
03/17/2004 11:51:30 PM PST
by
DoctorZIn
(Until they are Free, "We shall all be Iranians!")
To: DoctorZIn
Starting June 10th of this year, Iranians have begun taking to the streets to express their desire for a regime change.Huh? (scratching head) :)
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posted on
03/17/2004 11:53:45 PM PST
by
teletech
(Friends don't let friends vote DemocRAT!)
To: DoctorZIn
This just in from a student inside of Iran...
"Khameneii , yesterday, declared ban on all strike and said it is against Islam and revolution."
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posted on
03/17/2004 11:55:38 PM PST
by
DoctorZIn
(Until they are Free, "We shall all be Iranians!")
To: DoctorZIn
Sounds like a curfew!
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posted on
03/18/2004 12:01:05 AM PST
by
Ernest_at_the_Beach
(The terrorists and their supporters declared war on the United States - and war is what they got!!!!)
To: teletech
It should read "Starting June 10th, 2003."
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posted on
03/18/2004 12:01:10 AM PST
by
DoctorZIn
(Until they are Free, "We shall all be Iranians!")
To: DoctorZIn
I want to apoligize to the Iranian people for the American media and if I knew where there was any American media, I would, but all we have is communist media here.
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posted on
03/18/2004 12:01:40 AM PST
by
philetus
(Keep doing what you always do and you'll keep getting what you always get)
Comment #8 Removed by Moderator
To: DoctorZIn
It should read "Starting June 10th, 2003." Thanks for the clarification. Maybe we should chase the riff-raff out of Iran next and replace them with grownups.
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posted on
03/18/2004 12:16:20 AM PST
by
teletech
(Friends don't let friends vote DemocRAT!)
To: DoctorZIn
More Photos of this weeks Chahar Shanbe Souri (Fire Festival) celebration in Iran.
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posted on
03/18/2004 12:16:57 AM PST
by
DoctorZIn
(Until they are Free, "We shall all be Iranians!")
To: DoctorZIn
U.N. still weighing Iran's nukes
By James G. Lakely
THE WASHINGTON TIMES
18 March 2004
The head of the United Nation's nuclear watchdog yesterday told President Bush that "the jury is still out" on whether Iran is developing nuclear weapons, refusing to confirm the thinking of U.S. intelligence agencies that Iran is well on its way to building a nuclear bomb.
Mohamed ElBaradei, director-general of the U.N. International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA), said he and Mr. Bush agreed in their 45-minute meeting that the acceleration of nuclear proliferation in the Middle East is "a different ballgame" and that they will work together to put a stop to it.
"There was a concern here in Washington about the Iranian program," Mr. ElBaradei said after his meeting at the White House. "I told them that the jury is still out, and we haven't come to any conclusions about the nature of [Iran´s nuclear] program."
The Bush administration wants to put greater pressure on Iran to prevent it from exploiting the Nuclear Nonproliferation Treaty to go beyond developing nuclear-power plants to producing a nuclear weapon.
"We have serious concerns about Iran's pursuit of nuclear weapons," White House spokesman Scott McClellan said. "There certainly is no reason why they need to have nuclear energy, given all their vast oil and gas resources. And we need to continue to send a clear, consistent and strong message to Iran."
Mr. ElBaradei said he is confident that inspections by the IAEA as well as more international cooperation to restrict traffic in nuclear materials will work to keep Iran's program in check.
"We will continue to apply very vigorous inspections and, hopefully, will expect to see full transparency by Iran if Iran wants to prove that its [nuclear program] is for peaceful purposes," Mr. ElBaradei said.
Earlier yesterday, Mr. ElBaradei told the House subcommittee on the Middle East and Central Asia that he has not ruled out the possibility that Iran is building a nuclear bomb. But he also noted that he had to choose his words very carefully to prevent justifying military action against any regime pursuing a nuclear program.
"Our statements can make the difference between war and peace," he said. "That's why we have to be careful."
The crisis surrounding Iran's nuclear program was sparked in August 2002, when an exiled opposition group said Iran was hiding a massive underground uranium-enrichment plant.
Iran denies those accusations and has decried "plots by the U.S." to undermine what it says is a peaceful nuclear program.
Iranian President Mohammad Khatami yesterday accused the United States of bringing the "worst pressures on the IAEA" and turning other countries against it unjustly.
On Saturday, Iranian officials announced an indefinite freeze on IAEA inspections after the agency's board of governors censured Iran for hiding suspicious activities. Iran relented Tuesday, however, and will allow the IAEA back into the country on March 27.
"We will continue cooperation with the IAEA as long as our interests require and as long as we know various plots led by the U.S. are ineffective," Mr. Khatami told reporters in Tehran yesterday.
Mr. ElBaradei said he doesn't think two weeks is enough time for Iran to hide any illegal nuclear activities.
The director said he was assured by Mr. Bush and CIA Director George J. Tenet that the IAEA will receive cooperation from U.S. intelligence agencies to do an effective job of policing rogue nuclear states.
"I think we all understand that we need intelligence, we need resources, and we need technology to do a good job," Mr. ElBaradei said. "We agreed, both President Bush and I, that we are partners and we need to work together if we want to protect ourselves.
"This is a different ball game, and we need to think outside the box," he said.
http://washingtontimes.com/national/20040317-105829-5465r.htm
To: DoctorZIn
Chahr Shanbe Soori (Fire Burning Wednesday): The Iranian people turn this national ceremony into a widespread protest action against the regime
Based on reports received from Iran, people especially the youth celebrated this event in all the cities of Iran. In Tehran the brave youth in Sejad street threw grenades and firecrackers and set pictures of Khamenei on fire. While in the presence of the regimes' forces, the youth shouted slogans such as "Toop, Tank, Feshfesheh, Akhoond bayad Koshteh she" (Bombs, Tank firecrackers, Akhoond/Mullahs Must be Killed) while jumping over the bonfires. On Arya street in Tehran young boys and girls were shouting anti regime slogans while jumping over fire.
Tehran's youth were burning the Islamic Republic flag alongside pictures of Khamenei. The regime's forces that were present did not dare approach the youth.
In Kerman, on Shahada street, while the sound of firecrackers and explosions could be heard non stop, the people set a car belonging to the regime's forces on fire while shouting "Referendum, Referendum Een Ast So'ar e Mardom" (Referendum, Referendum This is the Slogan of the People). The youth in Kerman also set on fire effigies of Khamenei the Supreme Leader of the Islamic Republic.
In Tabriz, Ghazvin, Chaloos, Kermanshah, Sanandaj, and many other Iranian cities, similar celebrations and protests took place. As part of the Chahar Shanbeh Soori celebrations in Fardis Karaj, people attacked and set on fire the criminal Friday Prayer Leader's home. The youth clashed with the regime's forces and threw grenades at them while chanting slogans against the regime's leaders and demanding a referendum. Slogans heard included: "Toop, Tank Feshfesheh, Khamenei Koshteh Sheh" (Bombs, tanks, Firecrackers, Khamenei must Die), and addressing the Ansar e Hezbollah thugs (state sponsored Islamic Vigilante group) they shouted "Sheer'ee boro Gom sho" (Drug addicts go get lost). They also ridiculed Khatami, the president, with slogans accompanied by tambourines.
Reports from Haft Hoz and Narmak districts of Tehran described thousands gathered for the fire ceremonies. In Shahrk e Gharb and Meydan e Enghelab squares of Tehran the youth were throwing firecrackers at the feet of the regime's forces while smoke had shrouded the entire area. In front of Tehran University the youth threw a grenade at one of the regime's Mercedes Benz cars. A group of Baseejees (Islamic Vigilantes) who were attempting to attack the crowds were attacked in return by the brave youth, resulting in their injury and escape. A Baseej who was arresting a student was attacked with a hand made grenade and was severely injured, while onlookers cheered and applauded. Meanwhile the students were shouting slogans such as "Melat, Daneshjoo Etehad Etehad (Nation and Students Unite) "Daneshjoo, Mo'alem, Kargar Etesab, Etesab" (Students, Teachers, Workers Strike, Strike), "Dictator Haya Kon Mamlekat ra Raha Kon" (Dictator have shame, leave the nation alone).
Based on another report from the Nasr area of Tehran, at approximately 10.45pm there was a huge explosion amidst the regime's forces, injuring at least 20, the explosion was powerful enough to shake the whole area.
In Chaloos, firecrackers and explosions could be heard everywhere. The youth in this city had inflated a large baloon with the slogan "Referendum, Referendum Rahe Nejat e Mardom" (Referendum, Referendum the only hope for the people). In Ghazvin, the youth set a police car on fire on Hadi ZAbad street. In Ardibil, despite the ban on celebrations by the criminal Friday prayer leader of this city, the people, young and old, all poured out onto the streets for this national celebration. In Sarab city in Azarbaijan, the people forced the Baseej who were attacking the people to flee.
http://web.peykeiran.com/net_iran/irnewsbody.aspx?ID=13040
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posted on
03/18/2004 12:31:56 AM PST
by
DoctorZIn
(Until they are Free, "We shall all be Iranians!")
To: DoctorZIn
U.S. Said to Seek Iran's Nuclear Details by June
By DAVID E. SANGER
Published: March 18, 2004
ASHINGTON, March 17 The head of the United Nations nuclear monitoring agency, Mohammed ElBaradei, said Wednesday that President Bush and his aides had told him they regarded June as "an important deadline" for Iran to reveal all the details of its clandestine nuclear program. But he said Mr. Bush had left unclear what action he might take if Iran failed to do so.
After a 45-minute meeting with Mr. Bush and Condoleezza Rice, the national security adviser, Mr. ElBaradei also said he sensed that the administration was "still mulling" some kind of direct dialogue with Tehran on its nuclear program and other issues.
In an interview after the meeting, Mr. ElBaradei said the subject of Iraq's weapons programs so contentious a year ago never even came up Wednesday in the Oval Office.
Instead, the discussion, which Mr. ElBaradei said had covered Pakistan and North Korea as well as Iran, centered on their somewhat different proposals for controlling the world's supply of fissile material for nuclear weapons, and keeping it out of the hands of both terror groups and rogue nations.
Mr. ElBaradei said he pressed Mr. Bush to help him get his inspectors into Pakistan to take samples of its nuclear material, which he needs to match up with traces of nuclear material found in Iran. It is a network created by Abdul Qadeer Khan, the father of the Pakistani bomb, that is suspected of supplying Iran with the materials and technology to make atomic weapons.
Mr. Bush has said publicly that he believes that Iran is attempting to build nuclear weapons; Mr. ElBaradei says he does not yet have evidence of a weapons program.
Iran's account of its nuclear activity has constantly changed. Last year it admitted that it had hidden 18 years of nuclear development programs. It conceded this year that it had experimented with an advanced type of centrifuge apparently supplied by Mr. Khan's network.
Senior American officials have said they will decide in June whether to seek sanctions against Iran in the Security Council.
http://www.nytimes.com/2004/03/18/politics/18INSP.html?ex=1080190800&en=a5da86f9223251ce&ei=5062
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posted on
03/18/2004 12:36:34 AM PST
by
DoctorZIn
(Until they are Free, "We shall all be Iranians!")
To: DoctorZIn
Here is an funny picture of the Iranian President Khatami that appeared in an Iranian newspaper showing Khatami's face behind a car and his hands were up like he is saying bye...
The caption reads: The Year of Saying Bye
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posted on
03/18/2004 12:46:25 AM PST
by
DoctorZIn
(Until they are Free, "We shall all be Iranians!")
To: Stefania
Welcome to Iran's Thread created by DoctorZIn.
To: DoctorZIn
It's New Year's Eve in Iran. People are celebrating despite a ban on celebrations. They traditionally jump over small fires to symbolize the end of the old year on the last Wednesday of the year.
Yawn.
Lee
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posted on
03/18/2004 3:34:45 AM PST
by
MrLee
To: MrLee
It's New Year's Eve in Iran. People are celebrating despite a ban on celebrations. Yawn. Yawn? Pictures of Khamenei are being burned & you find it boring? On other threads there were reports of revolutionary guards getting beaten.
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posted on
03/18/2004 5:01:26 AM PST
by
Tribune7
(Vote Toomey April 27)
To: Tribune7
Yawn? Pictures of Khamenei are being burned & you find it boring? You are so right!! This is news. This coming revolution is having "serious birth-pangs" right now, and before long, the "baby" is going to be born! Welcome Baby FREEDOM to the good folks of Iran!
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posted on
03/18/2004 5:19:09 AM PST
by
Reborn
To: DoctorZIn
Duck and cover.
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posted on
03/18/2004 5:24:29 AM PST
by
Pan_Yans Wife
(Much of your pain is self-chosen. --- Kahlil Gibran)
To: DoctorZIn
I'd like to buy into all this but reserve comment until my friend returns from Iran. When I last spoke to him he reported that things weren't as bad as reported and that we only get the bad news. He is coming back shortly.
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posted on
03/18/2004 5:30:04 AM PST
by
Bringbackthedraft
(SPIT ON NAM VETS AGAIN, VOTE KERRY!)
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