[CasearianDaoist]

You cannot control innovation if foreigners do all the engineering. The innovation in technology really comes from 50 years of taxpayers' investment in technology that they were told was in the national interest. They were not told that it would just be shipped oversea in the order to help "global value chains." They have just had their pocket picked.

It is just nonsense to say that you are going to make engineering a menial jobs in this country and then expect to have "control of innovation." you can lower peoples' wages here but you are not going to lower the price of real estate. And the social cost in crime and substance abuse as we descend into third world status will be devastating. And national defense> forget about it. It will be the Chinese and the Indians that are the world powers. We will be pushed back to a role much like England has today.

[neutrino]

You cannot control innovation if foreigners do all the engineering. The innovation in technology really comes from 50 years of taxpayers' investment in technology that they were told was in the national interest. They were not told that it would just be shipped oversea in the order to help "global value chains." They have just had their pocket picked.

I nominate this for quote of the month! Well said!