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So, the President and his economic advisors favor outsourcing or job exportation. I'm glad that Powell is reassuring the Indians that they will be able to continue taking American jobs. I wonder whether anyone in the GOP wants to reasure the American people that there will be high paying jobs for the average Joe? Any bets?
1 posted on 03/17/2004 6:48:10 PM PST by MannyP
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This WILL be the downfall of the Bush Administration.

It's as if all our leaders are CLUELESS.

2 posted on 03/17/2004 6:50:00 PM PST by BikePacker
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unless the monthly jobs reports start improving, this issue along with $3 a gallon gas will give Kerry the presidency.
3 posted on 03/17/2004 6:50:22 PM PST by oceanview
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I cannot understand some of the things my President is doing. Such actions are likely to lose the White House - and, perhaps, the Senate as well.

I was noticing that the CRB spot index is up over 20% versus a year ago. Is general inflation in the offing?

Employment issues + $3 gasoline + inflation does not result in winning an election...

4 posted on 03/17/2004 6:57:36 PM PST by neutrino (Oderint dum metuant: Let them hate us, so long as they fear us.)
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To: MannyP; joanie-f; snopercod; Carry_Okie; backhoe; Willie Green
The White House, that is, the Bush Administration, as usual, is largely incorrect on this matter.

"The best way to create jobs" is to reduce the costs of doing business, for American business, and that is best done by reducing government regulation.

As we have seen, a reduction of the interest rate --- "the gas pedal" --- does not work when the opportunity for using a reduced interest rate, in American industry, has been scrubbed away by confiscatory taxation and regulation.

Now, reducing the the burden of government, on American businesses, requires that a President, and the Congress, and the Judiciary (who think that they rule over everybody), shall have to match reductions in their costs operation, with the reductions in the business world, instead of, as has been their want, to bloat their way to ever-increasing taxing of the real working class --- the actual producers in the private sector; which is to say, federal layoffs should have kept up some pace with layoffs in the private sector, but they have not.

In fact, with the exception of employees in the budget area at the President's discretion with regard to national defense, he has not layed off any kind of hundreds, let along thousands, nor even hundred thousands of people ... has has been the fate of several hundreds of thousands in the private sector who have remained burdened with paying taxes with which to keep the comfortable 'government class' of alleged-workers up to their necks in benefits, in order for the President to appease socialists: the Senate Democrats, for example.

The President should have long ago been working to make lean and efficient, the federal government, but he has not.

I hasten to add, for all those who claim Bush to be like Reagan, in this area, Bush is most definitely not; because President Reagan, in constrast to President Bush, was adamant about attending to the needs that we reduce government bloat, inefficiency, etc.

Bush has little, if any experience with telling Senate Democrats (and some Republicans), "No!"

Bush has NOT been reducing the size of the non-uniformed government payroll.

Bush has NOT been talking, as a matter of day to day policy, about reducing the waste that is the want of government.

Those many areas where government is a tax upon the private sector, to the point of its having to leave town.

Funny, that; there are communities across the country, where some townspeople have figured out that government taxation and regulation drives away jobs.

Karl Rove ought to visit some; maybe, just maybe, before the elections.

Colin Powell, too!

8 posted on 03/17/2004 7:12:34 PM PST by First_Salute (May God save our democratic-republican government, from a government by judiciary.)
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...stirred a political outcry when he called the outsourcing of jobs a long-term "plus" for the economy. While Mr. Powell said Tuesday that "it is the reality of 21st century economics that these kinds of dislocations will take place..."

A rare example of politicians willing to do the unpopular thing to promote long-term benefit for the majority. Powell is right on target on this issue. It is short term pain, no doubt about it. But freeing up human resources to retrain and re-engage in the marketplace in a new function provides NEW goods and services that were not previously being provided due to lack of resources or motivation; and therefore grows the economic pie larger.

"The secretary made clear in his remarks that we are concerned when Americans lose jobs, and we are focused on creating jobs for American workers, and the best way to do that is to open markets around the world, including in India," said Claire Buchan, a spokeswoman for the White House.

Other nations are converted to free-market capitalism as they share the rewards. Partners in capitalism, sharing the rewards, have more at stake and more to lose -- and are therefore less likely to become adversaries -- and we are less likely to have to be looking at them down the end of a rifle. If one is able to stay this course long enough, the payoff -- economic, political, and otherwise -- will be enormous.

But David Wade, a spokesman for Senator John Kerry, the presumptive Democratic presidential nominee, said Mr. Powell's comments demonstrated how the Bush administration has "failed to fight for American workers."

Anytime the government is fighting for me, it makes me nervous. Just provide a level playing field, enforce the rules, ensure access to training and resources, and stay out of people's way.

10 posted on 03/17/2004 7:18:28 PM PST by Prince Caspian (Don't ask if it's risky... Ask if the reward is worth the risk)
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It's the liberal slant of the NYT. The USA Today story with regard to the same speech was titled, "Powell Prods India on Outsourcing."
19 posted on 03/17/2004 7:40:30 PM PST by Brilliant
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He said he was making that request, not as a condition for the United States allowing outsourcing to continue...

Why not? They are probably still laughing at him. Like we are really going to see India open its markets with this group in the White House.

21 posted on 03/17/2004 7:45:05 PM PST by Last Dakotan
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Thank goodness the Bush adminstration is creating jobs somewhere. Maybe its too much to ask for them to care about our country instead of India.
22 posted on 03/17/2004 7:45:45 PM PST by KC_Conspirator (This space outsourced to India)
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Not good. Not good at all.
26 posted on 03/17/2004 7:50:08 PM PST by Ciexyz
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With help like this, the country will usher in a new president next year, Pres. Kerry. What happened to protecting our homeland jobs and financial well being?
27 posted on 03/17/2004 7:52:36 PM PST by PCole
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The administration publicly "reassuring" Indians about the security of tech jobs (many of which were once held by currently unemployed Americans) is a move of nearly unprecedented political stupidity.
86 posted on 03/18/2004 10:18:50 AM PST by Mr. Mojo
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Mr. Powell told the students what he had said to reporters earlier in the day after a meeting with Foreign Minister Yaswant Sinha: an appropriate American response to outsourcing was to press India to open up to imports of American investments, goods and services.

Alert! Alert! Flying pigs coming over any second now!

101 posted on 03/18/2004 3:22:38 PM PST by Euro-American Scum (A poverty-stricken middle class must be a disarmed middle class)
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One of things that outrages me is the corrupt government of Mexico meddling in our internal affairs -- well guess what? Mexico is not the only one.

The US India Political Action Committee describes itself thus, "USINPAC’s mission is to ensure that we impact policy on issues of concern to the Indian American community." So how does sending Indian "American" community's jobs off shore benefit Indian "Americans?"

One of the main issues that USINPAC wants to "impact" is this, Prevent any protectionist legislation on IT outsourcing at the Federal level.

it was clear that the anxiety in India focuses on threats by some members of Congress to try to stop the transfer by legislation.

Not to worry. USINPAC virtually owns the House. To wit, the Caucus on India and Indian "Americans" (either you are an American or you ain't IMO) in the US House of Representatives has, I believe, close to two hundred India lackeys being paid and in for a lifetime of luxury retirement living courtesy of U.S. taxpayers. Let them retire on the living standards of the country they serve, India.

104 posted on 03/18/2004 5:17:35 PM PST by WilliamofCarmichael (Benedict Arnold was a hero for both sides in the same war, too!)
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More fodder for the confused and stupid.

Now the new buzz word is "outsourcing"!

Next it will be "killing workers". You people should try opening an economics book and learning something.

119 posted on 03/19/2004 12:18:29 AM PST by Fledermaus (Ðíé F£éðérmáú§ ^;;^ says, "Tick off France, Germany, Spain and Al Qaeda - VOTE BUSH!)
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I'm headin' for General Motors...There's going to be a hirin' blitz...When that market gets opened up, those Indian folks that are now doin' our work will be beggin' for some new Yukons and Cadillacs...That's right, ain't it Colon??? Ain't it???
128 posted on 03/19/2004 11:49:03 AM PST by Iscool
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This issue is Bush's Achilles heel, he'd better get serious and start at least addressing this or the dims will win the issue by default. John 'effing Kerry has no idea how to handle this either, but Bush is the man in charge so the blame will fall on him.
147 posted on 03/21/2004 7:51:46 AM PST by YankeeReb
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